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Combat Rescue Aircraft, Tankers Arrive In Caribbean As U.S. Military Buildup Accelerates
by mgbrattland＠gerlecreek.com 12 Dec '25

12 Dec '25

https://www.twz.com/news-features/combat-rescue-aircraft-tankers-arrive-in-c aribbean-as-u-s-military-buildup-accelerates CDR Mike Brattland, USN (Ret.) <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> mgbrattland(a)gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@brattland.org> mgbrattland(a)brattland.org Admin/Moderator SanDiegoCarGuys List & Calendar of Events <mailto:sandiegocarguys@brattland.org> sandiegocarguys(a)brattland.org 619 454-0496 '38 Willys 2 Dr Sedan Webmaster for <http://www.brattland.org/> www.brattland.org <http://www.overthehillgang.com/> www.overthehillgang.com <http://www.overdrivehotrodnews.com/> www.overdrivehotrodnews.com <http://www.gerlecreek.org/> www.gerlecreek.org <http://www.helobubbas.com/> www.helobubbas.com <http://www.prowlers.org/> www.prowlers.org <http://www.gerlecreek.com/> www.gerlecreek.com <http://www.ford6vcarburetion.com/> www.ford6vcarburetion.com <http://www.westcoastwillysclub.com/> www.westcoastwillysclub.com <http://www.nssha.org/> www.nssha.org <http://www.nhahistoricalsociety.org/> www.nhahistoricalsociety.org <https://sh60fhoas.nhahistoricalsociety.org/> https://sh60fhoas.nhahistoricalsociety.org/

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Navy and GAO Reports: V-22 Osprey Program
by mgbrattland＠gerlecreek.com 12 Dec '25

12 Dec '25

https://news.usni.org/2025/12/12/navy-and-gao-reports-v-22-osprey-program

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Cruzin' to Navy North Island, Coronado, Ca
by mgbrattland＠gerlecreek.com 11 Dec '25

11 Dec '25

https://youtu.be/wjcej9ludKQ?si=Z5cVjs-C9q0m_Ifp Today NHAHS had an informal meeting in the office regarding the possible office move from NASNI BLDG 654 to BLDG 251 in 2026. I took the opportunity to cruiz in to North Island in my '38 Willys Sedan and setup the GoPro in the passenger side window so all of you who have memories of the commute over the bridge and into the base could enjoy our Winter, December 10th 2025 weather, here on the left coast and remind yourselves I no longer need to commute anymore. At 3 minutes 15 seconds you will get a full view of the NHAHS Helo on a Stick (Navy SH-60F) at the main gate before the video ends. Merry Christmas mgb CDR Mike Brattland, USN (Ret.) <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> mgbrattland(a)gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@brattland.org> mgbrattland(a)brattland.org Admin/Moderator SanDiegoCarGuys List & Calendar of Events <mailto:sandiegocarguys@brattland.org> sandiegocarguys(a)brattland.org 619 454-0496 '38 Willys 2 Dr Sedan Webmaster for <http://www.brattland.org/> www.brattland.org <http://www.overthehillgang.com/> www.overthehillgang.com <http://www.overdrivehotrodnews.com/> www.overdrivehotrodnews.com <http://www.gerlecreek.org/> www.gerlecreek.org <http://www.helobubbas.com/> www.helobubbas.com <http://www.prowlers.org/> www.prowlers.org <http://www.gerlecreek.com/> www.gerlecreek.com <http://www.ford6vcarburetion.com/> www.ford6vcarburetion.com <http://www.westcoastwillysclub.com/> www.westcoastwillysclub.com <http://www.nssha.org/> www.nssha.org <http://www.nhahistoricalsociety.org/> www.nhahistoricalsociety.org <https://sh60fhoas.nhahistoricalsociety.org/> https://sh60fhoas.nhahistoricalsociety.org/

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Re: The Seditious Six
by Harold Brattland 11 Dec '25

11 Dec '25

What is your assurance that any of those old procedures are being followed beyond a few lower military? The prez doesn't read or pay attention to any thing beyond one page with two lines and a picture graphic. The underling aren't forced to do regular business, just Dogie'-style. If you point to laws or conventions or regs, you are pushed aside and replaces. Congress can get no answers in depth, if they even want to. Guess we all will have to meet at the Supreme Ct someday and beg for retired pay. On 12/11/2025 12:51, Marc Liebman wrote: > > So, having been either a participant in a seizure, or an observer in > the chain of command (in a command center) or the tasker of said > operation in the name of my boss, assuming they are following the way > we have done this in the past, here’s what happens: > > 1. A presidential finding, law, policy directive, or all of the above > is issued which is vetted by enough attorneys to fill a medium > sized law firm from DOD and DOJ authorizing action. In this case > there are many and this leads to tasking. > 2. We get intel that the boat is going to be full of drugs and it is > coming to the U.S. More likely the source is a human or COMINT but > in the case of a merchant ship or tanker it could be a > report/document in which the ship owner has filed that has > fraudulent information, i.e., inaccurate manifest, certification > that the ship has passed an environmental or material inspection, > invalid insurance, crew certifications that ar out of date or > non-existent, and the list goes on. I suspect the boats coming > from Venezuela or Columbia would not pass a U.S. Coast Guard > inspection, are not insured, and the crews have never taken a USCG > course. > 3. A asset with a camera – satellite, airplane, drone, helo, man in a > light airplane – is dispatched to take high resolution photos > 4. The target is then given a TOI – target of interest number > 5. More electronic and photographic intelligence is collected BEFORE > the boat leaves confirming or changing what we know > 6. The boat is tracked and at some point in, the execute order is > given after one last review by a law enforcement officer or a > DOD/DOJ attorney. > > FYI, on every one of these I have been involved in, there were as many > DOD/DOJ lawyers involved than Navy or CG personnel. And everyone of > them could stop the evolution. > > The Democrats and the press need to stop misleading the public. We’ve > done this type of operation for decades, you can even go back to WWI > to find examples. It IS LAWFUL and we are within our rights. > > Marc Liebman > > https://www.marcliebman.com <https://www.marcliebman.com> > > https://www.facebook.com/marcliebmanauthor/ > <https://www.facebook.com/marcliebmanauthor/> > > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_sDoFQM5wupNaCeGIvKL1g > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_sDoFQM5wupNaCeGIvKL1g> > > *From: *"ahaefner(a)aol.com" <ahaefner(a)aol.com> > *Reply-To: *"ahaefner(a)aol.com" <ahaefner(a)aol.com> > *Date: *Wednesday, December 10, 2025 at 10:11 PM > *To: *"lowderjf(a)gmail.com" <lowderjf(a)gmail.com>, > "habrattland(a)arvig.net" <habrattland(a)arvig.net> > *Cc: *"rcamero1(a)gmail.com" <rcamero1(a)gmail.com>, > "helobubbas(a)helobubbas.com" <helobubbas(a)helobubbas.com> > *Subject: *[Helobubbas] Re: The Seditious Six > > "Is it legal to use force?" s always an issue. Please correct me if > I'm wrong, our reason for using force was sold as finding WMDs and in > hindsight...no WMDs. After 20 boat attacks have we found any drugs? > W/r, AL ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ ‍ > > "Is it legal to use force?" s always an issue. > > Please correct me if I'm wrong, our reason for using force was sold as > finding WMDs and in hindsight...no WMDs. After 20 boat attacks have we > found any drugs? > > W/r, AL > > > In a message dated 12/10/2025 7:24:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, > lowderjf(a)gmail.com writes: > > What a pleasant fiction! The last time Congress passed a > declaration of war was 8 December 1941, after Japan bombed Pearl > Harbor, followed in 1941-42 by declarations against Germany, > Italy, Romania and Bulgaria. As far as I know, WWII was one of > only five declared wars in the history of the United States, > including the War of 1812, the Mexican War, the Spanish-American > War, and World War I. Neither Korea nor Vietnam were declared to > be "wars." Truman called the Korean War a "police action." > > Despite the dozens of "police action" instances of Presidential > use of deadly military force since passage of the War Powers > Resolution in 1986, including six major UNAUTHORIZED combat > interventions (Panama/Bush, Somalia/Bush-Clinton, Bosnia/Clinton, > Haiti/Clinton, Bosnia/Clinton, Kosovo/Clinton, Libya/Obama), only > three have have received Congressional authorization for the use > of military force (AUMF): Persian Gulf (1991), Afghanistan (2001) > and Iraq (2002). > > Actually, Harold, I share your sensibilities: My preference was > and is that Congress pass an AUMF to support presidential > interventions, or pass a resolution condemning them, but that is > not the world we live in. The fact is that Trump's use of force in > the Caribbean is remarkably unremarkable in that it is relatively > modest and not unique by comparison to Presidential precedent. > Unless and until he sends combat troops into Venezuela, at which > time I will hope for an AUMF, I believe it to be perfectly legal > and it bothers me not one whit. > > In my view, it is about time that someone besides Enrique Camarena > took the war on the cartels seriously, and I applaud the President > for finally taking prudent and effective action. I would bet my > life that those plastic drums in the cigarette boat that I saw get > blown up on the video in international waters were filled with > illegal drugs of the kind that has destroyed the lives of many of > my family members. The only thing I might have done differently > regarding the second strike would be to use the wreckage as bait > to lure another drug boat to the rescue and into my sights... > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2025 at 6:25 PM Harold Brattland > <habrattland(a)arvig.net> wrote: > > We always hope when going into a "war," we have support of an > Act of Congress properly passed proving authority, funding, > and limitations.. In case of current operations, called a > war by some, there is scant authority provided only by a legal > write up by OLC. It is classified so public can't know the > extent or basis for actions. Congressman on Intel cmte could > see it but can't characterize it, only to imply it is > questionable authority. Again, its quite basic that war > operations in a new place requires Congressional Act. > Apparently, some don't know that. Pity too, its a Coast > Guard policing mission and they have been doing it effectively. > > On 12/8/2025 14:22, Robert Cameron wrote: > > Thanks for asking - confused me, too. > > On Mon, Dec 8, 2025 at 1:44 PM James Lowder > <lowderjf(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > No disrespect, but what is your point, Harold? I am > seeking to understand. > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2025 at 2:12 PM Harold Brattland > <habrattland(a)arvig.net> wrote: > > While yucking it up about lawyers and congressmen, > don't forget the non-military counsel in Office of > Legal Council DOJ that wrote the classified > opinion providing the basis (legal basis???) for > combat ops in Caribbean, since no action requested > of Congress. Stupid is ignoring the > Constitution, thinking no one will notice. > h > > On 12/4/2025 15:22, Marc Liebman wrote: > > You can’t fix stupid. > > Marc Liebman > > https://www.marcliebman.com > <https://www.marcliebman.com> > > https://www.facebook.com/marcliebmanauthor/ > <https://www.facebook.com/marcliebmanauthor/> > > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_sDoFQM5wupNaCeGIvKL1g > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_sDoFQM5wupNaCeGIvKL1g> > > *From: *Mike Brattland > <mgbrattland(a)gerlecreek.com> > <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> > *Date: *Thursday, December 4, 2025 at 10:28 AM > *To: *'Brian Miller' > <brianjmiller1977(a)gmail.com> > <mailto:brianjmiller1977@gmail.com> > *Cc: *'HeloBubbas' <helobubbas(a)helobubbas.com> > <mailto:helobubbas@helobubbas.com> > *Subject: *[Helobubbas] Re: The Seditious Six > > I enjoy hearing from actual lawyers. These > morons are so isolated from reality that they > thought they were attacking Trump instead of > the reality that they undermining the lawful > chain of command. That makes them stupid, but > not criminal. It hasn’t gone over well in the > veteran spaces I follow and the fact that > space boi is parading himself around like a > victim of his own idiocyinstead of taking > ownership of his attack on good order snd > discipline on the deck plates hasn’t helped > his case. > > What a great, original and accurate > description for the Senator from Arizona > Brian! mgb > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Helobubbas mailing list --helobubbas(a)helobubbas.com > > To unsubscribe send an email tohelobubbas-leave(a)helobubbas.com > > -- > > *Harold & Elaine Brattland* > > 609 Granger Rd, Detroit Lakes MN 56501-4112 > > Home Phone 218.846.1283, > > _habrattland(a)Arvig.net_| embrattland(a)Arvig.net > <mailto:embrattland@Arvig.net> > > _______________________________________________ > Helobubbas mailing list -- helobubbas(a)helobubbas.com > To unsubscribe send an email to > helobubbas-leave(a)helobubbas.com > > -- > > Best regards, > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > Helobubbas mailing list -- helobubbas(a)helobubbas.com > To unsubscribe send an email to > helobubbas-leave(a)helobubbas.com > > -- > > *Harold & Elaine Brattland* > > 609 Granger Rd, Detroit Lakes MN 56501-4112 > > Home Phone 218.846.1283, > > _habrattland(a)Arvig.net_| embrattland(a)Arvig.net > <mailto:embrattland@Arvig.net> > > -- > > Best regards, > > Jim > > _______________________________________________ > Helobubbas mailing list -- helobubbas(a)helobubbas.com > To unsubscribe send an email to helobubbas-leave(a)helobubbas.com > -- untitled Harold & Elaine Brattland //// <mailto:habrattland@Comcast.net>//609 Granger Rd, Detroit Lakes MN 56501-4112 Home Phone 218.846.1283, habrattland(a)Arvig.net | embrattland(a)Arvig.net <mailto:embrattland@Arvig.net>

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The Seditious Six
by mgbrattland＠gerlecreek.com 11 Dec '25

11 Dec '25

https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2025/12/03/the_seditious_six_11508 20.html

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Crashed Navy Super Hornet And Seahawk Fished Out Of South China Sea
by mgbrattland＠gerlecreek.com 09 Dec '25

09 Dec '25

https://www.twz.com/news-features/crashed-navy-super-hornet-and-seahawk-fish ed-out-of-south-china-sea CDR Mike Brattland, USN (Ret.) <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> mgbrattland(a)gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@brattland.org> mgbrattland(a)brattland.org Admin/Moderator SanDiegoCarGuys List & Calendar of Events <mailto:sandiegocarguys@brattland.org> sandiegocarguys(a)brattland.org 619 454-0496 '38 Willys 2 Dr Sedan Webmaster for <http://www.brattland.org/> www.brattland.org <http://www.overthehillgang.com/> www.overthehillgang.com <http://www.overdrivehotrodnews.com/> www.overdrivehotrodnews.com <http://www.gerlecreek.org/> www.gerlecreek.org <http://www.helobubbas.com/> www.helobubbas.com <http://www.prowlers.org/> www.prowlers.org <http://www.gerlecreek.com/> www.gerlecreek.com <http://www.ford6vcarburetion.com/> www.ford6vcarburetion.com <http://www.westcoastwillysclub.com/> www.westcoastwillysclub.com <http://www.nssha.org/> www.nssha.org <http://www.nhahistoricalsociety.org/> www.nhahistoricalsociety.org <https://sh60fhoas.nhahistoricalsociety.org/> https://sh60fhoas.nhahistoricalsociety.org/

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FW: Aviation Week :: MQ-25 First Flight Slips Into 2026
by mgbrattland＠gerlecreek.com 09 Dec '25

09 Dec '25

From: Harold Brattland <habrattland(a)arvig.net> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2025 9:07 AM Check out this site https://aviationweek.com/defense/aircraft-propulsion/mq-25-first-flight-sli… -- MQ-25 First Flight Slips Into 2026 Brian Everstine <https://aviationweek.com/author/brian-everstine> December 08, 2025 <https://aviationweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/crop_freeform/public/20…> The Boeing MQ-25 T1 demonstrator during a 2022 test. Credit: U.S. Navy SIMI VALLEY, California—The much-anticipated first flight of the Boeing <https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing> MQ-25 Stingray for the U.S. Navy has been pushed to early 2026, a delay after both service and company leaders called for the flight by year’s end. The Navy in a statement said the MQ-25 team is making progress toward the first flight goal, though the timeline for the initial test has shifted. “Over the last several months, the team has completed MQ-25A Stingray structural testing on a static aircraft, conducted initial engine runs, completed its flight-certified software, and commanded the vehicle from the Unmanned Carrier Aviation Mission Control System (UMCS),” the Navy said in a statement. The aircraft is in the final stages of ground testing ahead of taxi and then flight. “The team is finalizing systems testing and flight clearance, with the first flight planned once certification is complete and weather permits,” the Navy says. The delay comes after both the government shutdown and a strike at Boeing <https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing> ’s Mid-America Airport in Mascoutah, Illinois, and St. Louis facilities. But neither the Navy nor Boeing <https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing> pinned the delay to either. Boeing <https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing> in a statement said flight-certified software is in place, the aircraft is receiving commands from the Lockheed Martin UMCS and the aircraft has completed engine runs. “Boeing <https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing> and the Navy are taking additional time to complete deliberate systems-level testing and review and approve the final airworthiness artifacts needed for a flight clearance. Once that’s complete and we have a suitable weather window, we will fly,” a Boeing <https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing> spokesperson says. The first flight will be of the first production-representative MQ-25 built for the Navy program. A previous test article has completed multiple flight tests. The Navy has said the MQ-25 is critical because it will be the trailblazer for uncrewed operations on carriers. Beginning in April, top Navy and Boeing <https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing> officials predicted the first flight would come by year’s end. Dan Gillian, Boeing <https://aviationweek.com/term/boeing> ’s vice president and general manager of air dominance, told Aviation Week in April that “the airplane, the system and the team are all saying this is going to happen this year.” Vice Adm. Daniel Cheever, commander of Naval Air Forces, told Aviation Week in August that “affirm, by the end of the year 2025” the flight would happen. “That is the thing that unlocks the key to the future for manned/unmanned teaming on the aircraft carrier,” he said. “It really provides a future for collaborative combat aircraft on the air wing of the future, which is a good mix, a healthy mix of manned and unmanned assets of different sizes and types.” <https://aviationweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/author_thumbnail/public…> Brian Everstine <https://aviationweek.com/author/brian-everstine> Brian Everstine is the Pentagon Editor for Aviation Week, based in Washington, D

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Nimitz Return
by Michael G. Brattland 07 Dec '25

07 Dec '25

https://www.facebook.com/SanDiegoWebCam/videos/2253627471807686/?sfnsn=mo&m… Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone

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Sedition
by Marc Liebman 07 Dec '25

07 Dec '25

Here’s another view that actually looks at the law, er, laws….. "Sedition is a Real Thing" - by Todd Chase Anyone pretending that Senator Mark Kelly and his group of coordinated senators did “nothing wrong” is either uninformed or deliberately misleading people. There is a massive difference between casually expressing an opinion about illegal orders and what actually happened here. These senators did not give their thoughts in a private interview, a newspaper column, or a CNN panel. They issued a coordinated political communication directed at the entire United States military. That distinction matters. In the military, intent and audience define the act. And when the audience is the armed forces, the legal framework changes instantly. One thing the loudest voices refuse to acknowledge is the basic foundation of military reality. They keep claiming that “nothing illegal happened” and that these senators simply told the military to follow the law. This is a dishonest representation of what they did. And when liberals jump into comment sections writing “I served in the military, I know how this works,” that claim is almost always false. Anyone who has actually served knows this for a fact. Chain of command is drilled into you from day one. It is not optional, it is not vague, and it is not symbolic. It is the backbone of all military structure. If someone claims you can undermine the chain of command without consequences, they are lying or never served a day in their life. Now here is the part talking heads desperately avoid. The laws that govern what you can and cannot say to the military are not the same as the First Amendment rules for civilians. When a group of federal officials, especially retired officers, address the military directly about how to act during a political transition, that becomes a legal issue. And while we cannot declare guilt ourselves, the laws that cover this type of conduct are not “right wing opinions.” They are literal black letter statutes. Here is the framework they pretend doesn’t exist. 18 U.S.C. 2385 This law prohibits advocating resistance against lawful authority. When you tell the military to question the authority of a President or suggest they should treat upcoming orders as suspect or illegitimate, you step directly into the territory this statute governs. Whether prosecutors pursue it is their call, but the statute applies. 18 U.S.C. 2384 Seditious conspiracy does not require violence. It includes any coordinated effort to hinder or delay the execution of federal law. A jointly signed message directed at the military regarding how to treat election outcomes can be interpreted as an attempt to influence the execution of authority. 18 U.S.C. 602 and 595 These laws forbid federal officeholders from influencing government employees during political conflict. The military counts as government employees. Coordinated political messaging toward the troops is categorically different from an op-ed or TV interview. DoD Directive 1344.10 The Department of Defense specifically forbids the use of military personnel as a political audience. You cannot aim partisan messaging at service members. It is a bright red line. UCMJ Article 88 Retired officers remain subject to recall. Contemptuous or politically loaded speech directed at the civilian leadership by a retired officer falls under this article. It has been enforced in the past and remains enforceable today. UCMJ Articles 94 and 133 Article 94 covers any conduct intended to cause unlawful refusal of duty or undermine lawful authority. Article 133 covers unbecoming conduct. These are not theoretical. They apply to retirees and have clear precedent. The talking heads continue to argue that these senators did nothing more than “remind the military to follow the law,” but that argument is dishonest. What happened was not a general reminder of duty. It was a coordinated, politically timed message targeting the entire military chain of command during a contested political struggle. That is not protected in the same way a private opinion is. The military cannot be influenced, directed, or pressured by sitting senators regarding political transitions. Even the attempt is prohibited under long-standing law. The central point is this. When a powerful group of federal officials directs a coordinated message straight into the ranks of the armed forces during a political dispute, that is not harmless commentary. That enters the territory where multiple statutes exist for a reason, to prevent political actors from shaping military behavior. Anyone pretending otherwise is either lying, didn’t serve, or does not understand the structure that keeps the military neutral. The chain of command matters. The laws governing influence over the troops matter. And the coordinated nature of what was done is exactly why people are using terms like sedition. Whether charges come or not is up to prosecutors, but pretending there is “no possible crime” Marc Liebman https://www.marcliebman.com https://www.facebook.com/marcliebmanauthor/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_sDoFQM5wupNaCeGIvKL1g Author of: Cherubs 2 Raider of the Scottish Coast Big Mother 40 Carronade Render Harmless Death of a Lady Forgotten Last Battles Inner Look For a Few Francs Moscow Airlift Predators The Simushir Island Incident Fight We Shall Flight of the Pawnee Failure to Fire Insidious Dragon The Red Star of Death Member of: The Author’s Guild Military Writers Society of America Association of Texas Authors North American Snowsport Journalists Association --

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