Can I get an AMEN?Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device -------- Original message --------From: randall abshier <abshierr@cox.net> Date: 9/26/25 5:37 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Helobubbas <helobubbas@helobubbas.com> Subject: [Helobubbas] Fwd: Re: Fw: Hegseth calls military leaders to meet next week in sudden order I have a suggestion; instead of wasting band width, grey matter, and logic,  just waite and see. Could be nothing more than a brain storming & strategy session. You guys may be right but I’m a little disappointed you’re not thinking something positive. Between the possible shut down and threats from Russia, China, NK, and the Middle East,  I’m hopeful something positive comes out of the gathering of our military’s brain trust. I maybe naive but hopefully. I believe our military is stronger today than Jan 25. Sent from my iPadBegin forwarded message:From: Richard Goldsby <regoldsby@msn.com>Date: September 26, 2025 at 16:36:27 PDTTo: Bruce Engelhardt <engelharbb@hotmail.com>, Lou Fifer <louisfifer@gmail.com>Cc: Terry McKearney <terry.mckearney@therangergroup.com>, Marc Liebman <marc@marcliebman.com>, rsluys@gmail.com, HeloBubbas <helobubbas@helobubbas.com>, bruce valley <brucevalley@earthlink.net>, Dan <gator41@allmail.net>, Douglas Burnett <douglasburnett1972@gmail.com>, Jock Brownfield <coltjock64@gmail.com>, Al Shively <mooseshively@earthlink.net>Subject: [Helobubbas] Re: Fw: Hegseth calls military leaders to meet next week in sudden order Maybe it's just a demonstration of his power over the military, designed to inflate his ego. Rich From: Bruce Engelhardt <engelharbb@hotmail.com> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 6:16 PM To: Lou Fifer <louisfifer@gmail.com> Cc: Terry McKearney <terry.mckearney@therangergroup.com>; Marc Liebman <marc@marcliebman.com>; rsluys@gmail.com <rsluys@gmail.com>; HeloBubbas <helobubbas@helobubbas.com>; bruce valley <brucevalley@earthlink.net>; Dan <gator41@allmail.net>; Douglas Burnett <douglasburnett1972@gmail.com>; Rich-Diana Goldsby <regoldsby@msn.com>; Jock Brownfield <coltjock64@gmail.com>; Al Shively <mooseshively@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [Helobubbas] Re: Fw: Hegseth calls military leaders to meet next week in sudden order   Government shutdown might be reason for the gathering? On Sep 26, 2025, at 5:35 PM, Lou Fifer <louisfifer@gmail.com> wrote:  On the surface this does NOT Make Sense. Why would SecDef deign to think that he knows better how to run our various military branches, given his O-4 NG status? If he is planning a mass firing or ubiquitous demotions of all/some Flag & General Officers, how much will he save? Will the resulting Officer Corp(s) in each branch be then filled by legions of grovelling sycophants? Will demotions cause some/many/all Flags or Generals to retire in protest? Who will immediately lead our troops when/if Hegseth cuts through the ranks? How enthused will the remaining feel about getting back to their commands and will they eagerly protect America? Hegseth has allowed much worry and likely dissension in all ranks by his closeted approach to calling a Big Meeting. Did Hegseth miss the lecture and learning of "Praise in Public - Punish in Private"? How much leadership can a TV Reality Host / NG O-4 absorb from his part-time involvement in our military? Lou On Fri, Sep 26, 2025 at 1:39 PM Terry McKearney <terry.mckearney@therangergroup.com> wrote: Latest guess:   https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/09/26/hegseth-generals...   Who knows if it’s true but I’m sure these guys, but commissioned and CMCs, who’ve had multiple combat tours on their way up the ladder, will get lot out of being lectured by a reserve/NG O4 about being a warrior.   If they do get the wrong coupon, will they have to pay their way back home?   Also heard today: all naval reserve flag billets will be reduced by one star.   From: <rsluys@gmail.com> Date: Friday, September 26, 2025 at 12:34 To: 'HeloBubbas' <helobubbas@helobubbas.com> Subject: [Helobubbas] Re: Fw: Hegseth calls military leaders to meet next week in sudden order     WARNING - EXTERNAL EMAIL This Email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.   Kind of reeks of that, doesn’t it?   From: Marc Liebman <marc@marcliebman.com> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 11:47 AM To: mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com; HeloBubbas <helobubbas@helobubbas.com> Subject: [Helobubbas] Re: Fw: Hegseth calls military leaders to meet next week in sudden order   I wonder is this is similar to what CNATRA did in 1974 when they brought all the SNAs at Whiting (VT2 and VT-3) into one room. As you entered, you were given a sealed envelop with your name on it. When instructed, the SNAs opened the envelope and if you had a blue coupon, you went to room A where you were sent home to continue flight training.   If you had a red coupon, you went to another room and found out if you were being released from the Navy with an honorable discharge (Mostly AOC and AVROCs), or if you were being sent to a boat, supply corps training or whatever (NROTC, Naval Academy Grads).   We instructors were not told how/what the determination was made and this smacks of this event. Hegseth wants to reduce the flag ranks by 20% or more.   Marc Liebman https://www.marcliebman.com https://www.facebook.com/marcliebmanauthor/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_sDoFQM5wupNaCeGIvKL1g     From: Mike Brattland <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> Date: Friday, September 26, 2025 at 10:28 AM To: HeloBubbas <helobubbas@helobubbas.com> Subject: [Helobubbas] Fw: Hegseth calls military leaders to meet next week in sudden order       Mike Brattland  mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com  mgbrattland@brattland.org www.gerlecreek.com  www.ford6vcarburetion.com www.brattland.org  www.westcoastwillysclub.com  From: David Kocher <dhkocher@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2025 2:53 PM To: Mike Brattland <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> Subject: Hegseth calls military leaders to meet next week in sudden order   https://thehill.com/homenews/5521707-hegseth-summons-top-generals/ _______________________________________________ Helobubbas mailing list -- helobubbas@helobubbas.com To unsubscribe send an email to helobubbas-leave@helobubbas.com _______________________________________________ Helobubbas mailing list -- helobubbas@helobubbas.com To unsubscribe send an email to helobubbas-leave@helobubbas.com _______________________________________________Helobubbas mailing list -- helobubbas@helobubbas.comTo unsubscribe send an email to helobubbas-leave@helobubbas.com

Completely agree, Randy, especially with your 1st sentence, thank you, Sir! On Saturday, September 27, 2025 at 01:37:01 AM GMT+1, randall abshier <abshierr@cox.net> wrote:  I have a suggestion; instead of wasting band width, grey matter, and logic,  just waite and see. Could be nothing more than a brain storming & strategy session. You guys may be right but I’m a little disappointed you’re not thinking something positive. Between the possible shut down and threats from Russia, China, NK, and the Middle East,  I’m hopeful something positive comes out of the gathering of our military’s brain trust. I maybe naive but hopefully. I believe our military is stronger today than Jan 25.  Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: Richard Goldsby <regoldsby@msn.com> Date: September 26, 2025 at 16:36:27 PDT To: Bruce Engelhardt <engelharbb@hotmail.com>, Lou Fifer <louisfifer@gmail.com> Cc: Terry McKearney <terry.mckearney@therangergroup.com>, Marc Liebman <marc@marcliebman.com>, rsluys@gmail.com, HeloBubbas <helobubbas@helobubbas.com>, bruce valley <brucevalley@earthlink.net>, Dan <gator41@allmail.net>, Douglas Burnett <douglasburnett1972@gmail.com>, Jock Brownfield <coltjock64@gmail.com>, Al Shively <mooseshively@earthlink.net> Subject: [Helobubbas] Re: Fw: Hegseth calls military leaders to meet next week in sudden order  Maybe it's just a demonstration of his power over the military, designed to inflate his ego.Rich From: Bruce Engelhardt <engelharbb@hotmail.com> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 6:16 PM To: Lou Fifer <louisfifer@gmail.com> Cc: Terry McKearney <terry.mckearney@therangergroup.com>; Marc Liebman <marc@marcliebman.com>; rsluys@gmail.com <rsluys@gmail.com>; HeloBubbas <helobubbas@helobubbas.com>; bruce valley <brucevalley@earthlink.net>; Dan <gator41@allmail.net>; Douglas Burnett <douglasburnett1972@gmail.com>; Rich-Diana Goldsby <regoldsby@msn.com>; Jock Brownfield <coltjock64@gmail.com>; Al Shively <mooseshively@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [Helobubbas] Re: Fw: Hegseth calls military leaders to meet next week in sudden order Government shutdown might be reason for the gathering? On Sep 26, 2025, at 5:35 PM, Lou Fifer <louisfifer@gmail.com> wrote: On the surface this does NOT Make Sense. Why would SecDef deign to think that he knows better how to run our various military branches, given his O-4 NG status?If he is planning a mass firing or ubiquitous demotions of all/some Flag & General Officers, how much will he save?Will the resulting Officer Corp(s) in each branch be then filled by legions of grovelling sycophants?Will demotions cause some/many/all Flags or Generals to retire in protest?Who will immediately lead our troops when/if Hegseth cuts through the ranks?How enthused will the remaining feel about getting back to their commands and will they eagerly protect America? Hegseth has allowed much worry and likely dissension in all ranks by his closeted approach to calling a Big Meeting. Did Hegseth miss the lecture and learning of "Praise in Public - Punish in Private"? How much leadership can a TV Reality Host / NG O-4 absorb from his part-time involvement in our military? Lou On Fri, Sep 26, 2025 at 1:39 PM Terry McKearney <terry.mckearney@therangergroup.com> wrote: Latest guess:   https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/09/26/hegseth-generals...   Who knows if it’s true but I’m sure these guys, but commissioned and CMCs, who’ve had multiple combat tours on their way up the ladder, will get lot out of being lectured by a reserve/NG O4 about being a warrior.   If they do get the wrong coupon, will they have to pay their way back home?   Also heard today: all naval reserve flag billets will be reduced by one star.   From:<rsluys@gmail.com> Date: Friday, September 26, 2025 at 12:34 To: 'HeloBubbas' <helobubbas@helobubbas.com> Subject: [Helobubbas] Re: Fw: Hegseth calls military leaders to meet next week in sudden order     WARNING - EXTERNAL EMAIL This Email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.   Kind of reeks of that, doesn’t it?   From: Marc Liebman <marc@marcliebman.com> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 11:47 AM To: mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com; HeloBubbas <helobubbas@helobubbas.com> Subject: [Helobubbas] Re: Fw: Hegseth calls military leaders to meet next week in sudden order   I wonder is this is similar to what CNATRA did in 1974 when they brought all the SNAs at Whiting (VT2 and VT-3) into one room. As you entered, you were given a sealed envelop with your name on it. When instructed, the SNAs opened the envelope and if you had a blue coupon, you went to room A where you were sent home to continue flight training.   If you had a red coupon, you went to another room and found out if you were being released from the Navy with an honorable discharge (Mostly AOC and AVROCs), or if you were being sent to a boat, supply corps training or whatever (NROTC, Naval Academy Grads).   We instructors were not told how/what the determination was made and this smacks of this event. Hegseth wants to reduce the flag ranks by 20% or more.   Marc Liebman https://www.marcliebman.com https://www.facebook.com/marcliebmanauthor/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_sDoFQM5wupNaCeGIvKL1g     From:Mike Brattland <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> Date: Friday, September 26, 2025 at 10:28 AM To: HeloBubbas <helobubbas@helobubbas.com> Subject: [Helobubbas] Fw: Hegseth calls military leaders to meet next week in sudden order       Mike Brattland  mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com  mgbrattland@brattland.org www.gerlecreek.com www.ford6vcarburetion.com www.brattland.org www.westcoastwillysclub.com  From: David Kocher <dhkocher@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2025 2:53 PM To: Mike Brattland <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> Subject: Hegseth calls military leaders to meet next week in sudden order   https://thehill.com/homenews/5521707-hegseth-summons-top-generals/ _______________________________________________ Helobubbas mailing list --helobubbas@helobubbas.com To unsubscribe send an email to helobubbas-leave@helobubbas.com _______________________________________________ Helobubbas mailing list -- helobubbas@helobubbas.com To unsubscribe send an email to helobubbas-leave@helobubbas.com _______________________________________________ Helobubbas mailing list -- helobubbas@helobubbas.com To unsubscribe send an email to helobubbas-leave@helobubbas.com _______________________________________________ Helobubbas mailing list -- helobubbas@helobubbas.com To unsubscribe send an email to helobubbas-leave@helobubbas.com