RA’s are not crazy uncommon here in Orlando where we have a small executive airport beneath the FAC on one of the south flow runways. I had one on final a few months ago. Typically, they hold us at altitude until FAF and vertical separation is minimal. “Traffic” calls are very common. They are attention getting, but manageable, as this was. They should never be this close, but the helicopter was well beneath the airspace ten miles out in what was likely familiar airspace. Luckily the airliner wasn’t low enough for the RA to be inhibited as in DC. Does anybody know if the NG guys follow course rules? On Fri, Mar 27, 2026 at 7:39 PM Harold Brattland <habrattland@arvig.net> wrote:

May not be the pilots...we learned from DCA accident the old Blackhawks don't have proper transponder functionality and their rules are to not use the Adsb functions. So radar controllers may not see the data on scopes, and the avoidance systems in airliner don't give collision warnings at proper time. And see and avoid advise can so longer be used in directing helo. Probably, will cause an investigation by FAA though.

On 3/27/2026 17:34, mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com wrote:

I am guessing this Blackhawk is from Los Alamitos where the Army Air Guard has hung their hats for years and years....mgb

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