https://youtu.be/bIa5SVqbQNM?si=dk4jKwvCzmjdq5eO An early squadron cruise video but still the best I have ever seen after all these years..This video has had nearly 10 million views over the last nearly 20 years...The Hummer guys did good
And this one..Sun King Hey Ya | | | | | | | | | | | Sun King Hey Ya | | | This could be a fun NHA contest ... which squadron has the best Cruise Video? Post them on the new NHA website, have Members vote and the winner gets the (perpetual) "Cecil B DeMille" award. Pushes traffic, increases views, raises awareness and membership... Sandy Clark208.651.7335 On Saturday, December 20, 2025 at 12:01:32 PM EST, <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> wrote: https://youtu.be/bIa5SVqbQNM?si=dk4jKwvCzmjdq5eO An early squadron cruise video but still the best I have ever seen after all these years….This video has had nearly 10 million views over the last nearly 20 years…..The Hummer guys did good _______________________________________________ Helobubbas mailing list -- helobubbas@helobubbas.com To unsubscribe send an email to helobubbas-leave@helobubbas.com
I was actually on the HSL-47 deployment aboard Lincoln just prior to this one from Oct 2004 to February 2005 for Bravo to Sea. I did work ups for this 2006 deployment, but rotated to VTs before deployment. It doesn’t seem so long ago. I remember they would usually turn the lights and TACAN after they recovered the E-2 while we were still in starboard D. We would just laugh it off. On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 12:01 PM <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> wrote:
https://youtu.be/bIa5SVqbQNM?si=dk4jKwvCzmjdq5eO
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Sounds like SWO behavior. When I was in 47 about a decade earlier there was a det in the early 90s who was embarked on USS Valley Forge.. "happy valley" Was not happy. The Captain at the time hated the air det and was busy mistreating them and wouldn't set flight quarters and a few times they even had to declare emergencies to get a green deck. Or so the story goes. One of the crews decided to fix that issue. NAG.. They did a pony run into Bahrain to get the mail. While there they asked the PC's if there were any old mail bags they could have. They did. Enterprising AW went outside and filled the wore out bags with dirt and rocks and anything to make them look full and then sink. As per usual they came back to the ship and the CO was in a mood and wouldn't give them a green deck. The aircraft told the ship if they didn't get a green deck they were throwing the mail out. No response so they went out in front of the bow and tossed the trashed mail bags.. "Green Deck" The CO was going to bring them up on charges for throwing out the mail until he found out that they hadn't and also discussed how if he did the investigation would indicate his actions towards the det. I wasn't there but some of the people involved were still there and related the story so either it is a good sea story and maybe some or mostly true. Having seen abuse between ships and air dets first hand on 2 different ships and been a party to fighting back I certainly could have happened. On 12/21/2025 9:39 AM, mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com wrote:
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I was actually on the HSL-47 deployment aboard Lincoln just prior to this one from Oct 2004 to February 2005 for Bravo to Sea. I did work ups for this 2006 deployment, but rotated to VTs before deployment. It doesn’t seem so long ago. I remember they would usually turn the lights and TACAN after they recovered the E-2 while we were still in starboard D. We would just laugh it off.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 12:01 PM <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> wrote:
https://youtu.be/bIa5SVqbQNM?si=dk4jKwvCzmjdq5eO
An early squadron cruise video but still the best I have ever seen after all these years….This video has had nearly 10 million views over the last nearly 20 years…..The Hummer guys did good
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Not being HS, I had no idea of the BS the helo guys put up with. Apparently some of our SWO and VA brethren are not capable of thinking ahead. Heard'a getting wet? No, not /that/ wet. What a bunch of bovine excrement. Penis envy, me thinks. On 12/21/2025 3:29 PM, Kevin Black wrote:
Sounds like SWO behavior. When I was in 47 about a decade earlier there was a det in the early 90s who was embarked on USS Valley Forge.. "happy valley" Was not happy. The Captain at the time hated the air det and was busy mistreating them and wouldn't set flight quarters and a few times they even had to declare emergencies to get a green deck. Or so the story goes. One of the crews decided to fix that issue. NAG.. They did a pony run into Bahrain to get the mail. While there they asked the PC's if there were any old mail bags they could have. They did. Enterprising AW went outside and filled the wore out bags with dirt and rocks and anything to make them look full and then sink. As per usual they came back to the ship and the CO was in a mood and wouldn't give them a green deck. The aircraft told the ship if they didn't get a green deck they were throwing the mail out. No response so they went out in front of the bow and tossed the trashed mail bags.. "Green Deck" The CO was going to bring them up on charges for throwing out the mail until he found out that they hadn't and also discussed how if he did the investigation would indicate his actions towards the det. I wasn't there but some of the people involved were still there and related the story so either it is a good sea story and maybe some or mostly true. Having seen abuse between ships and air dets first hand on 2 different ships and been a party to fighting back I certainly could have happened.
On 12/21/2025 9:39 AM, mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com wrote:
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*From:*Brian Miller <brianjmiller1977@gmail.com> *Sent:* Sunday, December 21, 2025 9:18 AM *To:* mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com *Cc:* HeloBubbas <helobubbas@helobubbas.com> *Subject:* [Helobubbas] Re: VAW-116 SunKings Cruise Video
I was actually on the HSL-47 deployment aboard Lincoln just prior to this one from Oct 2004 to February 2005 for Bravo to Sea. I did work ups for this 2006 deployment, but rotated to VTs before deployment. It doesn’t seem so long ago. I remember they would usually turn the lights and TACAN after they recovered the E-2 while we were still in starboard D. We would just laugh it off.
On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 12:01 PM <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> wrote:
https://youtu.be/bIa5SVqbQNM?si=dk4jKwvCzmjdq5eO
An early squadron cruise video but still the best I have ever seen after all these years….This video has had nearly 10 million views over the last nearly 20 years…..The Hummer guys did good
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Not sure how this is SWO behavior….aren’t CVs commanded by aviators…..? Isn’t that the guy who turned the lights off? From: Dan <gator41@allmail.net> Date: Sunday, December 21, 2025 at 13:42 To: <helobubbas@helobubbas.com> Subject: [Helobubbas] Re: VAW-116 SunKings Cruise Video WARNING - EXTERNAL EMAIL This Email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Not being HS, I had no idea of the BS the helo guys put up with. Apparently some of our SWO and VA brethren are not capable of thinking ahead. Heard'a getting wet? No, not that wet. What a bunch of bovine excrement. Penis envy, me thinks. On 12/21/2025 3:29 PM, Kevin Black wrote: Sounds like SWO behavior. When I was in 47 about a decade earlier there was a det in the early 90s who was embarked on USS Valley Forge.. "happy valley" Was not happy. The Captain at the time hated the air det and was busy mistreating them and wouldn't set flight quarters and a few times they even had to declare emergencies to get a green deck. Or so the story goes. One of the crews decided to fix that issue. NAG.. They did a pony run into Bahrain to get the mail. While there they asked the PC's if there were any old mail bags they could have. They did. Enterprising AW went outside and filled the wore out bags with dirt and rocks and anything to make them look full and then sink. As per usual they came back to the ship and the CO was in a mood and wouldn't give them a green deck. The aircraft told the ship if they didn't get a green deck they were throwing the mail out. No response so they went out in front of the bow and tossed the trashed mail bags.. "Green Deck" The CO was going to bring them up on charges for throwing out the mail until he found out that they hadn't and also discussed how if he did the investigation would indicate his actions towards the det. I wasn't there but some of the people involved were still there and related the story so either it is a good sea story and maybe some or mostly true. Having seen abuse between ships and air dets first hand on 2 different ships and been a party to fighting back I certainly could have happened. On 12/21/2025 9:39 AM, mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com wrote: Many CVs learned to fix this issue……..mgb CDR Mike Brattland, USN (Ret.) mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com mgbrattland@brattland.org Admin/Moderator SanDiegoCarGuys List & Calendar of Events sandiegocarguys@brattland.org 619 454-0496 ’38 Willys 2 Dr Sedan Webmaster for www.brattland.org www.overthehillgang.com www.overdrivehotrodnews.com www.gerlecreek.org www.helobubbas.com www.prowlers.org www.gerlecreek.com www.ford6vcarburetion.com www.westcoastwillysclub.com www.nssha.org www.nhahistoricalsociety.org https://sh60fhoas.nhahistoricalsociety.org/ From: Brian Miller <brianjmiller1977@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2025 9:18 AM To: mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com Cc: HeloBubbas <helobubbas@helobubbas.com> Subject: [Helobubbas] Re: VAW-116 SunKings Cruise Video I was actually on the HSL-47 deployment aboard Lincoln just prior to this one from Oct 2004 to February 2005 for Bravo to Sea. I did work ups for this 2006 deployment, but rotated to VTs before deployment. It doesn’t seem so long ago. I remember they would usually turn the lights and TACAN after they recovered the E-2 while we were still in starboard D. We would just laugh it off. On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 12:01 PM <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> wrote: https://youtu.be/bIa5SVqbQNM?si=dk4jKwvCzmjdq5eO An early squadron cruise video but still the best I have ever seen after all these years….This video has had nearly 10 million views over the last nearly 20 years…..The Hummer guys did good _______________________________________________ Helobubbas mailing list -- helobubbas@helobubbas.com To unsubscribe send an email to helobubbas-leave@helobubbas.com _______________________________________________ Helobubbas mailing list -- helobubbas@helobubbas.com To unsubscribe send an email to helobubbas-leave@helobubbas.com _______________________________________________ Helobubbas mailing list -- helobubbas@helobubbas.com To unsubscribe send an email to helobubbas-leave@helobubbas.com _______________________________________________ Helobubbas mailing list -- helobubbas@helobubbas.com To unsubscribe send an email to helobubbas-leave@helobubbas.com
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These lists are all private and not owned or controlled by NHA. <http://www.helobubbas.com/> www.helobubbas.com From: Terry McKearney <terry.mckearney@therangergroup.com> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2025 10:01 AM To: Dan <gator41@allmail.net>; helobubbas@helobubbas.com Subject: [Helobubbas] Re: VAW-116 SunKings Cruise Video Not sure how this is SWO behavior….aren’t CVs commanded by aviators…..? Isn’t that the guy who turned the lights off? From: Dan <gator41@allmail.net <mailto:gator41@allmail.net> > Date: Sunday, December 21, 2025 at 13:42 To: <helobubbas@helobubbas.com <mailto:helobubbas@helobubbas.com> > Subject: [Helobubbas] Re: VAW-116 SunKings Cruise Video WARNING - EXTERNAL EMAIL This Email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Not being HS, I had no idea of the BS the helo guys put up with. Apparently some of our SWO and VA brethren are not capable of thinking ahead. Heard'a getting wet? No, not that wet. What a bunch of bovine excrement. Penis envy, me thinks. On 12/21/2025 3:29 PM, Kevin Black wrote: Sounds like SWO behavior. When I was in 47 about a decade earlier there was a det in the early 90s who was embarked on USS Valley Forge.. "happy valley" Was not happy. The Captain at the time hated the air det and was busy mistreating them and wouldn't set flight quarters and a few times they even had to declare emergencies to get a green deck. Or so the story goes. One of the crews decided to fix that issue. NAG.. They did a pony run into Bahrain to get the mail. While there they asked the PC's if there were any old mail bags they could have. They did. Enterprising AW went outside and filled the wore out bags with dirt and rocks and anything to make them look full and then sink. As per usual they came back to the ship and the CO was in a mood and wouldn't give them a green deck. The aircraft told the ship if they didn't get a green deck they were throwing the mail out. No response so they went out in front of the bow and tossed the trashed mail bags.. "Green Deck" The CO was going to bring them up on charges for throwing out the mail until he found out that they hadn't and also discussed how if he did the investigation would indicate his actions towards the det. I wasn't there but some of the people involved were still there and related the story so either it is a good sea story and maybe some or mostly true. Having seen abuse between ships and air dets first hand on 2 different ships and been a party to fighting back I certainly could have happened. On 12/21/2025 9:39 AM, mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> wrote: Many CVs learned to fix this issue……..mgb CDR Mike Brattland, USN (Ret.) <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@brattland.org> mgbrattland@brattland.org Admin/Moderator SanDiegoCarGuys List & Calendar of Events <mailto:sandiegocarguys@brattland.org> sandiegocarguys@brattland.org 619 454-0496 ’38 Willys 2 Dr Sedan Webmaster for <http://www.brattland.org/> www.brattland.org <http://www.overthehillgang.com/> www.overthehillgang.com <http://www.overdrivehotrodnews.com/> www.overdrivehotrodnews.com <http://www.gerlecreek.org/> www.gerlecreek.org <http://www.helobubbas.com/> www.helobubbas.com <http://www.prowlers.org/> www.prowlers.org <http://www.gerlecreek.com/> www.gerlecreek.com <http://www.ford6vcarburetion.com/> www.ford6vcarburetion.com <http://www.westcoastwillysclub.com/> www.westcoastwillysclub.com <http://www.nssha.org/> www.nssha.org <http://www.nhahistoricalsociety.org/> www.nhahistoricalsociety.org <https://sh60fhoas.nhahistoricalsociety.org/> https://sh60fhoas.nhahistoricalsociety.org/ From: Brian Miller <mailto:brianjmiller1977@gmail.com> <brianjmiller1977@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2025 9:18 AM To: mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> Cc: HeloBubbas <mailto:helobubbas@helobubbas.com> <helobubbas@helobubbas.com> Subject: [Helobubbas] Re: VAW-116 SunKings Cruise Video I was actually on the HSL-47 deployment aboard Lincoln just prior to this one from Oct 2004 to February 2005 for Bravo to Sea. I did work ups for this 2006 deployment, but rotated to VTs before deployment. It doesn’t seem so long ago. I remember they would usually turn the lights and TACAN after they recovered the E-2 while we were still in starboard D. We would just laugh it off. 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Terry, you are correct. In our case, it was definitely aviator behavior. We had a lot to learn as a community about being helicopter carrier pilots and the HS guys aboard weren’t about to help. We were the new kids and had to earn our keep, which we later did, but I would call our situation unique. None of anything we experienced was ever really seen as intentional toward us by the CAG dudes. Just sort of growing pains we all had to get through. I believe HSM-74 still deploys with Lincoln and enjoys a solid relationship with CAG, at least compared to where we started back in the day. On a SWO note, I had a horrendous OIC experience aboard a cruiser that was much like what Kevin described. It was so absurd that I can’t even talk about it without sounding crazy. I will say that after being three steps ahead of the CO’s wife (a JAG officer he weaponized against us). After seeing him called to the carpet by the admiral, I can tell you there is nothing more satisfying than seeing your most junior Sailor tongue-bathed by the CO, XO, and CMC in public to avoid what would have been a very very messy and embarrassing discovery on his part. Outlook is mightier than the sword and the OICs most powerful tool and that is as much as I will say. Also, it helps that I was connected to a few JAG friends with a healthy distrust of NLSO San Diego leadership. Yes, people like me also know people and he learned the hard way with ever figuring it out. On Mon, Dec 22, 2025 at 1:22 PM <rotorhead@helobubbas.com> wrote:
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Not sure how this is SWO behavior….aren’t CVs commanded by aviators…..? Isn’t that the guy who turned the lights off?
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Not being HS, I had no idea of the BS the helo guys put up with.
Apparently some of our SWO and VA brethren are not capable of thinking ahead. Heard'a getting wet? No, not *that* wet.
What a bunch of bovine excrement.
Penis envy, me thinks.
On 12/21/2025 3:29 PM, Kevin Black wrote:
Sounds like SWO behavior. When I was in 47 about a decade earlier there was a det in the early 90s who was embarked on USS Valley Forge.. "happy valley" Was not happy. The Captain at the time hated the air det and was busy mistreating them and wouldn't set flight quarters and a few times they even had to declare emergencies to get a green deck. Or so the story goes. One of the crews decided to fix that issue. NAG.. They did a pony run into Bahrain to get the mail. While there they asked the PC's if there were any old mail bags they could have. They did. Enterprising AW went outside and filled the wore out bags with dirt and rocks and anything to make them look full and then sink. As per usual they came back to the ship and the CO was in a mood and wouldn't give them a green deck. The aircraft told the ship if they didn't get a green deck they were throwing the mail out. No response so they went out in front of the bow and tossed the trashed mail bags.. "Green Deck" The CO was going to bring them up on charges for throwing out the mail until he found out that they hadn't and also discussed how if he did the investigation would indicate his actions towards the det. I wasn't there but some of the people involved were still there and related the story so either it is a good sea story and maybe some or mostly true. Having seen abuse between ships and air dets first hand on 2 different ships and been a party to fighting back I certainly could have happened.
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I was actually on the HSL-47 deployment aboard Lincoln just prior to this one from Oct 2004 to February 2005 for Bravo to Sea. I did work ups for this 2006 deployment, but rotated to VTs before deployment. It doesn’t seem so long ago. I remember they would usually turn the lights and TACAN after they recovered the E-2 while we were still in starboard D. We would just laugh it off.
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https://youtu.be/bIa5SVqbQNM?si=dk4jKwvCzmjdq5eO
An early squadron cruise video but still the best I have ever seen after all these years….This video has had nearly 10 million views over the last nearly 20 years…..The Hummer guys did good
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I have to admit I was surprised (and entertained) by Kevin’s story. I would have thought that by the 90s our CRUDES leadership would have gotten on board with the idea of an embarked helo det, fully integrated into the ship. I was a JO in the mid 70s in the DESRON world when the Knoxs first started carrying the LAMPS 1. While I wasn’t personally onboard one, it became apparent to us that the addition of an embarked aircraft meant doing business differently - consideration in station assignment, the time allotted for launching, recovery, etc. - were all things the destroyer guys had to learn to employ the aircraft. Seemed to me that we did over time and I hope it’s second nature to us now, although I realize the practice now is to put all the 60Rs on the CV as a squadron and only temporality det them out to the small boys from the carrier. I hope we aren’t going backwards in CRUDES/HS integration. WARNING - EXTERNAL EMAIL This Email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. From: Brian Miller <brianjmiller1977@gmail.com> Date: Monday, December 22, 2025 at 13:48 To: <rotorhead@helobubbas.com> Cc: Terry McKearney <terry.mckearney@therangergroup.com>, Dan <gator41@allmail.net>, <helobubbas@helobubbas.com> Subject: [Helobubbas] Re: VAW-116 SunKings Cruise Video Terry, you are correct. In our case, it was definitely aviator behavior. We had a lot to learn as a community about being helicopter carrier pilots and the HS guys aboard weren’t about to help. We were the new kids and had to earn our keep, which we later did, but I would call our situation unique. None of anything we experienced was ever really seen as intentional toward us by the CAG dudes. Just sort of growing pains we all had to get through. I believe HSM-74 still deploys with Lincoln and enjoys a solid relationship with CAG, at least compared to where we started back in the day. On a SWO note, I had a horrendous OIC experience aboard a cruiser that was much like what Kevin described. It was so absurd that I can’t even talk about it without sounding crazy. I will say that after being three steps ahead of the CO’s wife (a JAG officer he weaponized against us). After seeing him called to the carpet by the admiral, I can tell you there is nothing more satisfying than seeing your most junior Sailor tongue-bathed by the CO, XO, and CMC in public to avoid what would have been a very very messy and embarrassing discovery on his part. Outlook is mightier than the sword and the OICs most powerful tool and that is as much as I will say. Also, it helps that I was connected to a few JAG friends with a healthy distrust of NLSO San Diego leadership. Yes, people like me also know people and he learned the hard way with ever figuring it out. On Mon, Dec 22, 2025 at 1:22 PM <rotorhead@helobubbas.com> wrote: Indeed Rotorhead@helobubbas.com is the Admin and List Owner of the Helobubbas, Seasprites, Big Iron and Rotorhead Closed E-Mail lists. Helobubbas is a open discussion, closed E-Mail List. Seasprites and Big Iron are limited discussion, closed E-Mail lists for their respective communities. The Rotorhead list is a One Way Closed E-Mail List which includes all Helobubbas, Seasprites and Big Iron List members, but it is not a discussion list. The Owner/Moderator uses this list to share information from the Navy Helicopter and Vertical List Communities including Signal Charlies, Special Events, Reunions and associated community realevent information. It may also be used to share appropriate information from the Naval Helicopter and Vertical Lift Communities. Only the Rotorhead Owner can post to the list. These lists are all private and not owned or controlled by NHA. www.helobubbas.com From: Terry McKearney <terry.mckearney@therangergroup.com> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2025 10:01 AM To: Dan <gator41@allmail.net>; helobubbas@helobubbas.com Subject: [Helobubbas] Re: VAW-116 SunKings Cruise Video Not sure how this is SWO behavior….aren’t CVs commanded by aviators…..? Isn’t that the guy who turned the lights off? From: Dan <gator41@allmail.net> Date: Sunday, December 21, 2025 at 13:42 To: <helobubbas@helobubbas.com> Subject: [Helobubbas] Re: VAW-116 SunKings Cruise Video WARNING - EXTERNAL EMAIL This Email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Not being HS, I had no idea of the BS the helo guys put up with. Apparently some of our SWO and VA brethren are not capable of thinking ahead. Heard'a getting wet? No, not that wet. What a bunch of bovine excrement. Penis envy, me thinks. On 12/21/2025 3:29 PM, Kevin Black wrote: Sounds like SWO behavior. When I was in 47 about a decade earlier there was a det in the early 90s who was embarked on USS Valley Forge.. "happy valley" Was not happy. The Captain at the time hated the air det and was busy mistreating them and wouldn't set flight quarters and a few times they even had to declare emergencies to get a green deck. Or so the story goes. One of the crews decided to fix that issue. NAG.. They did a pony run into Bahrain to get the mail. While there they asked the PC's if there were any old mail bags they could have. They did. Enterprising AW went outside and filled the wore out bags with dirt and rocks and anything to make them look full and then sink. As per usual they came back to the ship and the CO was in a mood and wouldn't give them a green deck. The aircraft told the ship if they didn't get a green deck they were throwing the mail out. No response so they went out in front of the bow and tossed the trashed mail bags.. "Green Deck" The CO was going to bring them up on charges for throwing out the mail until he found out that they hadn't and also discussed how if he did the investigation would indicate his actions towards the det. I wasn't there but some of the people involved were still there and related the story so either it is a good sea story and maybe some or mostly true. Having seen abuse between ships and air dets first hand on 2 different ships and been a party to fighting back I certainly could have happened. On 12/21/2025 9:39 AM, mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com wrote: Many CVs learned to fix this issue……..mgb CDR Mike Brattland, USN (Ret.) mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com mgbrattland@brattland.org Admin/Moderator SanDiegoCarGuys List & Calendar of Events sandiegocarguys@brattland.org 619 454-0496 ’38 Willys 2 Dr Sedan Webmaster for www.brattland.org www.overthehillgang.com www.overdrivehotrodnews.com www.gerlecreek.org www.helobubbas.com www.prowlers.org www.gerlecreek.com www.ford6vcarburetion.com www.westcoastwillysclub.com www.nssha.org www.nhahistoricalsociety.org https://sh60fhoas.nhahistoricalsociety.org/ From: Brian Miller <brianjmiller1977@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2025 9:18 AM To: mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com Cc: HeloBubbas <helobubbas@helobubbas.com> Subject: [Helobubbas] Re: VAW-116 SunKings Cruise Video I was actually on the HSL-47 deployment aboard Lincoln just prior to this one from Oct 2004 to February 2005 for Bravo to Sea. I did work ups for this 2006 deployment, but rotated to VTs before deployment. It doesn’t seem so long ago. I remember they would usually turn the lights and TACAN after they recovered the E-2 while we were still in starboard D. We would just laugh it off. On Sat, Dec 20, 2025 at 12:01 PM <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> wrote: https://youtu.be/bIa5SVqbQNM?si=dk4jKwvCzmjdq5eO An early squadron cruise video but still the best I have ever seen after all these years….This video has had nearly 10 million views over the last nearly 20 years…..The Hummer guys did good _______________________________________________ Helobubbas mailing list -- helobubbas@helobubbas.com To unsubscribe send an email to helobubbas-leave@helobubbas.com _______________________________________________ Helobubbas mailing list -- helobubbas@helobubbas.com To unsubscribe send an email to helobubbas-leave@helobubbas.com _______________________________________________ Helobubbas mailing list -- helobubbas@helobubbas.com To unsubscribe send an email to helobubbas-leave@helobubbas.com _______________________________________________ Helobubbas mailing list -- helobubbas@helobubbas.com To unsubscribe send an email to helobubbas-leave@helobubbas.com _______________________________________________ Helobubbas mailing list -- helobubbas@helobubbas.com To unsubscribe send an email to helobubbas-leave@helobubbas.com _______________________________________________ Helobubbas mailing list -- helobubbas@helobubbas.com To unsubscribe send an email to helobubbas-leave@helobubbas.com
It seems that "backwards" is only one direction that we seem to be passing as we spin around the USN re-build-up compass. A steady helm on a reasoned course would be better. Perhaps we will see some improvement(s). *Lou* On Tue, Dec 23, 2025 at 10:16 AM Terry McKearney < terry.mckearney@therangergroup.com> wrote:
I have to admit I was surprised (and entertained) by Kevin’s story. I would have thought that by the 90s our CRUDES leadership would have gotten on board with the idea of an embarked helo det, fully integrated into the ship. I was a JO in the mid 70s in the DESRON world when the *Knox*s first started carrying the LAMPS 1. While I wasn’t personally onboard one, it became apparent to us that the addition of an embarked aircraft meant doing business differently - consideration in station assignment, the time allotted for launching, recovery, etc. - were all things the destroyer guys had to learn to employ the aircraft. Seemed to me that we did over time and I hope it’s second nature to us now, although I realize the practice now is to put all the 60Rs on the CV as a squadron and only temporality det them out to the small boys from the carrier. I hope we aren’t going backwards in CRUDES/HS integration.
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Terry, you are correct. In our case, it was definitely aviator behavior. We had a lot to learn as a community about being helicopter carrier pilots and the HS guys aboard weren’t about to help. We were the new kids and had to earn our keep, which we later did, but I would call our situation unique. None of anything we experienced was ever really seen as intentional toward us by the CAG dudes. Just sort of growing pains we all had to get through. I believe HSM-74 still deploys with Lincoln and enjoys a solid relationship with CAG, at least compared to where we started back in the day.
On a SWO note, I had a horrendous OIC experience aboard a cruiser that was much like what Kevin described. It was so absurd that I can’t even talk about it without sounding crazy. I will say that after being three steps ahead of the CO’s wife (a JAG officer he weaponized against us). After seeing him called to the carpet by the admiral, I can tell you there is nothing more satisfying than seeing your most junior Sailor tongue-bathed by the CO, XO, and CMC in public to avoid what would have been a very very messy and embarrassing discovery on his part. Outlook is mightier than the sword and the OICs most powerful tool and that is as much as I will say. Also, it helps that I was connected to a few JAG friends with a healthy distrust of NLSO San Diego leadership. Yes, people like me also know people and he learned the hard way with ever figuring it out.
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Not sure how this is SWO behavior….aren’t CVs commanded by aviators…..? Isn’t that the guy who turned the lights off?
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Not being HS, I had no idea of the BS the helo guys put up with.
Apparently some of our SWO and VA brethren are not capable of thinking ahead. Heard'a getting wet? No, not *that* wet.
What a bunch of bovine excrement.
Penis envy, me thinks.
On 12/21/2025 3:29 PM, Kevin Black wrote:
Sounds like SWO behavior. When I was in 47 about a decade earlier there was a det in the early 90s who was embarked on USS Valley Forge.. "happy valley" Was not happy. The Captain at the time hated the air det and was busy mistreating them and wouldn't set flight quarters and a few times they even had to declare emergencies to get a green deck. Or so the story goes. One of the crews decided to fix that issue. NAG.. They did a pony run into Bahrain to get the mail. While there they asked the PC's if there were any old mail bags they could have. They did. Enterprising AW went outside and filled the wore out bags with dirt and rocks and anything to make them look full and then sink. As per usual they came back to the ship and the CO was in a mood and wouldn't give them a green deck. The aircraft told the ship if they didn't get a green deck they were throwing the mail out. No response so they went out in front of the bow and tossed the trashed mail bags.. "Green Deck" The CO was going to bring them up on charges for throwing out the mail until he found out that they hadn't and also discussed how if he did the investigation would indicate his actions towards the det. I wasn't there but some of the people involved were still there and related the story so either it is a good sea story and maybe some or mostly true. Having seen abuse between ships and air dets first hand on 2 different ships and been a party to fighting back I certainly could have happened.
On 12/21/2025 9:39 AM, mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com wrote:
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*From:* Brian Miller <brianjmiller1977@gmail.com> <brianjmiller1977@gmail.com> *Sent:* Sunday, December 21, 2025 9:18 AM *To:* mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com *Cc:* HeloBubbas <helobubbas@helobubbas.com> <helobubbas@helobubbas.com> *Subject:* [Helobubbas] Re: VAW-116 SunKings Cruise Video
I was actually on the HSL-47 deployment aboard Lincoln just prior to this one from Oct 2004 to February 2005 for Bravo to Sea. I did work ups for this 2006 deployment, but rotated to VTs before deployment. It doesn’t seem so long ago. I remember they would usually turn the lights and TACAN after they recovered the E-2 while we were still in starboard D. We would just laugh it off.
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https://youtu.be/bIa5SVqbQNM?si=dk4jKwvCzmjdq5eO
An early squadron cruise video but still the best I have ever seen after all these years….This video has had nearly 10 million views over the last nearly 20 years…..The Hummer guys did good
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Having HSL dets on several ships, and HS on a couple carriers, I was obviously blessed with the ships I was on.
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Sounds like SWO behavior. When I was in 47 about a decade earlier there was a det in the early 90s who was embarked on USS Valley Forge.. "happy valley" Was not happy. The Captain at the time hated the air det and was busy mistreating them and wouldn't set flight quarters and a few times they even had to declare emergencies to get a green deck. Or so the story goes. One of the crews decided to fix that issue. NAG.. They did a pony run into Bahrain to get the mail. While there they asked the PC's if there were any old mail bags they could have. They did. Enterprising AW went outside and filled the wore out bags with dirt and rocks and anything to make them look full and then sink. As per usual they came back to the ship and the CO was in a mood and wouldn't give them a green deck. The aircraft told the ship if they didn't get a green deck they were throwing the mail out. No response so they went out in front of the bow and tossed the trashed mail bags.. "Green Deck" The CO was going to bring them up on charges for throwing out the mail until he found out that they hadn't and also discussed how if he did the investigation would indicate his actions towards the det. I wasn't there but some of the people involved were still there and related the story so either it is a good sea story and maybe some or mostly true. Having seen abuse between ships and air dets first hand on 2 different ships and been a party to fighting back I certainly could have happened.
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I was actually on the HSL-47 deployment aboard Lincoln just prior to this one from Oct 2004 to February 2005 for Bravo to Sea. I did work ups for this 2006 deployment, but rotated to VTs before deployment. It doesn’t seem so long ago. I remember they would usually turn the lights and TACAN after they recovered the E-2 while we were still in starboard D. We would just laugh it off.
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https://youtu.be/bIa5SVqbQNM?si=dk4jKwvCzmjdq5eO
An early squadron cruise video but still the best I have ever seen after all these years….This video has had nearly 10 million views over the last nearly 20 years…..The Hummer guys did good
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