Basic fixed wing formation flying rule - never approach a rendezvous from above - if you overshoot you will lose sight of the leader. John Olmstead -----Original Message----- From: Harold Brattland <habrattland@arvig.net> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2026 6:36 PM To: Michael G. Brattland <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com>; 'HeloBubbas' <helobubbas@helobubbas.com> Subject: [Helobubbas] Re: FW: Breaking: Idaho air show horror after 2 jets crash Lots of sky to get lost in in SW Idaho and not many obvious landmarks to use for positioning either. Those teams are supposed to have a set pattern rehearsed over and over, so one ship mu st have got lost in space. Luck was with the crew underneath....could have been trapped or ejecting into debris!... Maybe Marines shouldn't be using Growlers for flight demos!! On 5/17/2026 21:32, Michael G. Brattland wrote: In one of the blurbs I read these two crews were part of the Wings flight demo station wing...... MGBrattland Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: andy.cain@comcast.net <mailto:andy.cain@comcast.net> Date: 5/17/26 5:13 PM (GMT-08:00) To: 'Marc Liebman' <marc@marcliebman.com> <mailto:marc@marcliebman.com> , mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> , 'HeloBubbas' <helobubbas@helobubbas.com> <mailto:helobubbas@helobubbas.com> Subject: RE: [Helobubbas] Re: FW: Breaking: Idaho air show horror after 2 jets crash How many flight hours? Flight hours doing what? How many flight hours in the last year? Last 6 months? Past month? What was the pre-brief for this mission? Did the flight plan include maneuver prep? Were both pilots safety briefed together, prior to flying to the destination? If these aircraft are indeed Growlers, $137 million dollars down the drain, plus the compressed spines of 4 aviators (compressed spine mentioned, because I have a compressed spine . . . self-centric comment from prior naive nugget experience, but my heart goes out to all 4). Oh, my, Andy From: Marc Liebman <marc@marcliebman.com> <mailto:marc@marcliebman.com> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2026 4:51 PM To: mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> ; HeloBubbas <helobubbas@helobubbas.com> <mailto:helobubbas@helobubbas.com> Subject: [Helobubbas] Re: FW: Breaking: Idaho air show horror after 2 jets crash Yup….. 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