My Willy Aum Oil Pan
All back together and running here. As you always do a very nice Tig Weld both inside and outside on my hot rod oil pan which got holed at the oil changer place.Thanks so much making this pan repair for me Tony.....mgbMGBrattland Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
Hi, Just like the pan the Ray Smith broke on a rock going to Sedona in 1986 on the freeway in the rain east of Yuma. Don From: Michael G. Brattland <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 12:27 PM To: Tony Cortez <tltony@cox.net> Cc: San Diego Car Guys List <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org>; Ray Gauthier <ragauthier@cox.net>; Ron Lambrecht Home <lambrecr@outlook.com>; Pete Cowper <petercowper@att.net>; Kevin Black <kblack1967@gmail.com>; Michael G Brattland <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com>; Bill Jansen GMail <coebill@gmail.com>; Bill Personius <billpersonius@gmail.com> Subject: [Sandiegocarguys] My Willy Aum Oil Pan All back together and running here. As you always do a very nice Tig Weld both inside and outside on my hot rod oil pan which got holed at the oil changer place.Thanks so much making this pan repair for me Tony.....mgb MGBrattland Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
Get rid of the CAST aluminum oil pan! A disaster waiting to happen. Larry Hofer Corvette Shop/Raylar Engineering 4645 Ruffner St., “I” San Diego, CA 92111 858-277-8388 From: don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com <don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 1:44 PM To: 'Michael G. Brattland' <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com>; 'Tony Cortez' <tltony@cox.net>; lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com Cc: 'San Diego Car Guys List' <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org>; 'Ray Gauthier' <ragauthier@cox.net>; 'Ron Lambrecht Home' <lambrecr@outlook.com>; 'Pete Cowper' <petercowper@att.net>; 'Kevin Black' <kblack1967@gmail.com>; 'Michael G Brattland' <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com>; 'Bill Jansen GMail' <coebill@gmail.com>; 'Bill Personius' <billpersonius@gmail.com> Subject: RE: [Sandiegocarguys] My Willy Aum Oil Pan Hi, Just like the pan the Ray Smith broke on a rock going to Sedona in 1986 on the freeway in the rain east of Yuma. Don From: Michael G. Brattland <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 12:27 PM To: Tony Cortez <tltony@cox.net <mailto:tltony@cox.net> > Cc: San Diego Car Guys List <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org <mailto:sandiegocarguys@brattland.org> >; Ray Gauthier <ragauthier@cox.net <mailto:ragauthier@cox.net> >; Ron Lambrecht Home <lambrecr@outlook.com <mailto:lambrecr@outlook.com> >; Pete Cowper <petercowper@att.net <mailto:petercowper@att.net> >; Kevin Black <kblack1967@gmail.com <mailto:kblack1967@gmail.com> >; Michael G Brattland <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com <mailto:mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com> >; Bill Jansen GMail <coebill@gmail.com <mailto:coebill@gmail.com> >; Bill Personius <billpersonius@gmail.com <mailto:billpersonius@gmail.com> > Subject: [Sandiegocarguys] My Willy Aum Oil Pan All back together and running here. As you always do a very nice Tig Weld both inside and outside on my hot rod oil pan which got holed at the oil changer place.Thanks so much making this pan repair for me Tony.....mgb MGBrattland Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
For the record, the pan has been on the car since it was built in the early 200s and has provided good service. It is an extremely low car and so that SBC sits low in the chassis, I normally catch or see in this case the raised up had steel section of the open pit at the oil changers, but did not actually see it and the employee did not pick up on it who was guiding me in over the pit….It would probably have cracked a steel pan in the same way it shocked my alm pan and cracked it…..so no giant hole but a crack which started leaking….Just part of running a low car……mgb From: lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com <lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 3:01 PM To: don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com; 'Michael G. Brattland' <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com>; 'Tony Cortez' <tltony@cox.net> Cc: 'San Diego Car Guys List' <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org>; 'Ray Gauthier' <ragauthier@cox.net>; 'Ron Lambrecht Home' <lambrecr@outlook.com>; 'Pete Cowper' <petercowper@att.net>; 'Kevin Black' <kblack1967@gmail.com>; 'Michael G Brattland' <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com>; 'Bill Jansen GMail' <coebill@gmail.com>; 'Bill Personius' <billpersonius@gmail.com> Subject: [Sandiegocarguys] Re: My Willy Aum Oil Pan Get rid of the CAST aluminum oil pan! A disaster waiting to happen. Larry Hofer Corvette Shop/Raylar Engineering 4645 Ruffner St., “I” San Diego, CA 92111 858-277-8388 From: don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com <mailto:don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com> <don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com <mailto:don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 1:44 PM To: 'Michael G. Brattland' <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> >; 'Tony Cortez' <tltony@cox.net <mailto:tltony@cox.net> >; lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com <mailto:lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com> Cc: 'San Diego Car Guys List' <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org <mailto:sandiegocarguys@brattland.org> >; 'Ray Gauthier' <ragauthier@cox.net <mailto:ragauthier@cox.net> >; 'Ron Lambrecht Home' <lambrecr@outlook.com <mailto:lambrecr@outlook.com> >; 'Pete Cowper' <petercowper@att.net <mailto:petercowper@att.net> >; 'Kevin Black' <kblack1967@gmail.com <mailto:kblack1967@gmail.com> >; 'Michael G Brattland' <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com <mailto:mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com> >; 'Bill Jansen GMail' <coebill@gmail.com <mailto:coebill@gmail.com> >; 'Bill Personius' <billpersonius@gmail.com <mailto:billpersonius@gmail.com> > Subject: RE: [Sandiegocarguys] My Willy Aum Oil Pan Hi, Just like the pan the Ray Smith broke on a rock going to Sedona in 1986 on the freeway in the rain east of Yuma. Don From: Michael G. Brattland <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 12:27 PM To: Tony Cortez <tltony@cox.net <mailto:tltony@cox.net> > Cc: San Diego Car Guys List <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org <mailto:sandiegocarguys@brattland.org> >; Ray Gauthier <ragauthier@cox.net <mailto:ragauthier@cox.net> >; Ron Lambrecht Home <lambrecr@outlook.com <mailto:lambrecr@outlook.com> >; Pete Cowper <petercowper@att.net <mailto:petercowper@att.net> >; Kevin Black <kblack1967@gmail.com <mailto:kblack1967@gmail.com> >; Michael G Brattland <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com <mailto:mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com> >; Bill Jansen GMail <coebill@gmail.com <mailto:coebill@gmail.com> >; Bill Personius <billpersonius@gmail.com <mailto:billpersonius@gmail.com> > Subject: [Sandiegocarguys] My Willy Aum Oil Pan All back together and running here. As you always do a very nice Tig Weld both inside and outside on my hot rod oil pan which got holed at the oil changer place.Thanks so much making this pan repair for me Tony.....mgb MGBrattland Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
Don, Ray Smith was with a convoy of Over the Hill Gang members and we were actually going to the Oak Creek Rod Run (a bit south of Sedona). The year was 1978 and the group included Roy Chisolm, John Pickle, Norm Fletcher, Butch Whitley, Patti and me, and several others. As I recall, we "fixed" Ray's '38 Chevy by hammering a piece of wood in the hole in the oil pan and continued on to Oak Creek. Hillbilly engineering at it's finest! Bill ________________________________ From: don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com <don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 1:43 PM To: 'Michael G. Brattland' <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com>; 'Tony Cortez' <tltony@cox.net>; lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com <lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com> Cc: 'San Diego Car Guys List' <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org>; 'Ray Gauthier' <ragauthier@cox.net>; 'Ron Lambrecht Home' <lambrecr@outlook.com>; 'Pete Cowper' <petercowper@att.net>; 'Kevin Black' <kblack1967@gmail.com>; 'Michael G Brattland' <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com>; 'Bill Jansen GMail' <coebill@gmail.com>; 'Bill Personius' <billpersonius@gmail.com> Subject: [Sandiegocarguys] Re: My Willy Aum Oil Pan Hi, Just like the pan the Ray Smith broke on a rock going to Sedona in 1986 on the freeway in the rain east of Yuma. Don From: Michael G. Brattland <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 12:27 PM To: Tony Cortez <tltony@cox.net> Cc: San Diego Car Guys List <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org>; Ray Gauthier <ragauthier@cox.net>; Ron Lambrecht Home <lambrecr@outlook.com>; Pete Cowper <petercowper@att.net>; Kevin Black <kblack1967@gmail.com>; Michael G Brattland <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com>; Bill Jansen GMail <coebill@gmail.com>; Bill Personius <billpersonius@gmail.com> Subject: [Sandiegocarguys] My Willy Aum Oil Pan All back together and running here. As you always do a very nice Tig Weld both inside and outside on my hot rod oil pan which got holed at the oil changer place.Thanks so much making this pan repair for me Tony.....mgb MGBrattland Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
Hi Bill and Patty, Wow haven't heard from you in years. No didn't get the rod until 1980 so it had to be after 1983 or 4 when I was with Holly. Ray coasted the rest of the way down the mountain into an abandoned gas station then they wouldn't let us work there so we towed it to a underpass on 8 and repaired it there. Larry Hofer went back to Yuma and got a steel pan from a junkyard and oil towing the T-bucket behind his Barracuda in the pouring rain. El Cajon to Oak Creek never had a dry windshield and Roy and I were in roadsters. Fun memories. Don From: william hogue <hogue34@hotmail.com> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 10:21 PM To: don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com; 'Michael G. Brattland' <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com>; 'Tony Cortez' <tltony@cox.net>; lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com Cc: 'San Diego Car Guys List' <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org>; 'Ray Gauthier' <ragauthier@cox.net>; 'Ron Lambrecht Home' <lambrecr@outlook.com>; 'Pete Cowper' <petercowper@att.net>; 'Kevin Black' <kblack1967@gmail.com>; 'Michael G Brattland' <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com>; 'Bill Jansen GMail' <coebill@gmail.com>; 'Bill Personius' <billpersonius@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Sandiegocarguys] Re: My Willy Aum Oil Pan Don, Ray Smith was with a convoy of Over the Hill Gang members and we were actually going to the Oak Creek Rod Run (a bit south of Sedona). The year was 1978 and the group included Roy Chisolm, John Pickle, Norm Fletcher, Butch Whitley, Patti and me, and several others. As I recall, we "fixed" Ray's '38 Chevy by hammering a piece of wood in the hole in the oil pan and continued on to Oak Creek. Hillbilly engineering at it's finest! Bill _____ From: don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com <mailto:don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com> <don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com <mailto:don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 1:43 PM To: 'Michael G. Brattland' <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> >; 'Tony Cortez' <tltony@cox.net <mailto:tltony@cox.net> >; lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com <mailto:lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com> <lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com <mailto:lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com> > Cc: 'San Diego Car Guys List' <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org <mailto:sandiegocarguys@brattland.org> >; 'Ray Gauthier' <ragauthier@cox.net <mailto:ragauthier@cox.net> >; 'Ron Lambrecht Home' <lambrecr@outlook.com <mailto:lambrecr@outlook.com> >; 'Pete Cowper' <petercowper@att.net <mailto:petercowper@att.net> >; 'Kevin Black' <kblack1967@gmail.com <mailto:kblack1967@gmail.com> >; 'Michael G Brattland' <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com <mailto:mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com> >; 'Bill Jansen GMail' <coebill@gmail.com>; 'Bill Personius' <billpersonius@gmail.com <mailto:billpersonius@gmail.com> > Subject: [Sandiegocarguys] Re: My Willy Aum Oil Pan Hi, Just like the pan the Ray Smith broke on a rock going to Sedona in 1986 on the freeway in the rain east of Yuma. Don From: Michael G. Brattland <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 12:27 PM To: Tony Cortez <tltony@cox.net <mailto:tltony@cox.net> > Cc: San Diego Car Guys List <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org <mailto:sandiegocarguys@brattland.org> >; Ray Gauthier <ragauthier@cox.net <mailto:ragauthier@cox.net> >; Ron Lambrecht Home <lambrecr@outlook.com <mailto:lambrecr@outlook.com> >; Pete Cowper <petercowper@att.net <mailto:petercowper@att.net> >; Kevin Black <kblack1967@gmail.com <mailto:kblack1967@gmail.com> >; Michael G Brattland <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com <mailto:mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com> >; Bill Jansen GMail <coebill@gmail.com <mailto:coebill@gmail.com> >; Bill Personius <billpersonius@gmail.com <mailto:billpersonius@gmail.com> > Subject: [Sandiegocarguys] My Willy Aum Oil Pan All back together and running here. As you always do a very nice Tig Weld both inside and outside on my hot rod oil pan which got holed at the oil changer place.Thanks so much making this pan repair for me Tony.....mgb MGBrattland Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
I remember that. What a trip. Stormin' Norman Fletcher On Fri, Jan 30, 2026, 10:21 PM william hogue <hogue34@hotmail.com> wrote:
Don, Ray Smith was with a convoy of Over the Hill Gang members and we were actually going to the Oak Creek Rod Run (a bit south of Sedona). The year was 1978 and the group included Roy Chisolm, John Pickle, Norm Fletcher, Butch Whitley, Patti and me, and several others. As I recall, we "fixed" Ray's '38 Chevy by hammering a piece of wood in the hole in the oil pan and continued on to Oak Creek. Hillbilly engineering at it's finest! Bill
------------------------------ *From:* don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com <don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com> *Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2026 1:43 PM *To:* 'Michael G. Brattland' <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com>; 'Tony Cortez' < tltony@cox.net>; lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com < lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com> *Cc:* 'San Diego Car Guys List' <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org>; 'Ray Gauthier' <ragauthier@cox.net>; 'Ron Lambrecht Home' <lambrecr@outlook.com>; 'Pete Cowper' <petercowper@att.net>; 'Kevin Black' <kblack1967@gmail.com>; 'Michael G Brattland' <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com>; 'Bill Jansen GMail' <coebill@gmail.com>; 'Bill Personius' <billpersonius@gmail.com> *Subject:* [Sandiegocarguys] Re: My Willy Aum Oil Pan
Hi,
Just like the pan the Ray Smith broke on a rock going to Sedona in 1986 on the freeway in the rain east of Yuma.
Don
*From:* Michael G. Brattland <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> *Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2026 12:27 PM *To:* Tony Cortez <tltony@cox.net> *Cc:* San Diego Car Guys List <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org>; Ray Gauthier <ragauthier@cox.net>; Ron Lambrecht Home <lambrecr@outlook.com>; Pete Cowper <petercowper@att.net>; Kevin Black <kblack1967@gmail.com>; Michael G Brattland <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com>; Bill Jansen GMail <coebill@gmail.com>; Bill Personius <billpersonius@gmail.com> *Subject:* [Sandiegocarguys] My Willy Aum Oil Pan
All back together and running here. As you always do a very nice Tig Weld both inside and outside on my hot rod oil pan which got holed at the oil changer place.Thanks so much making this pan repair for me Tony.....mgb
MGBrattland Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
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Mornin Bill; I am confused,, Ray broke his oil pan on two different occasions? That trip that Don was describing was memorable. It rained so much it filled my cylinders in my roadster with water. Needed to remove the spark plugs to get the water out of the cylinders. Didn't do any damage to the engine. We ran across some older guy (like you and me now) who had a really large collections of mid 40 and 50 and 60's cars in one of the mining warehouses, He let us in to look around. Was Kool Best to you and Patti. Larry Hofer Corvette Shop/Raylar Engineering 4645 Ruffner St., "I" San Diego, CA 92111 858-277-8388 From: william hogue <hogue34@hotmail.com> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 10:21 PM To: don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com; 'Michael G. Brattland' <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com>; 'Tony Cortez' <tltony@cox.net>; lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com Cc: 'San Diego Car Guys List' <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org>; 'Ray Gauthier' <ragauthier@cox.net>; 'Ron Lambrecht Home' <lambrecr@outlook.com>; 'Pete Cowper' <petercowper@att.net>; 'Kevin Black' <kblack1967@gmail.com>; 'Michael G Brattland' <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com>; 'Bill Jansen GMail' <coebill@gmail.com>; 'Bill Personius' <billpersonius@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Sandiegocarguys] Re: My Willy Aum Oil Pan Don, Ray Smith was with a convoy of Over the Hill Gang members and we were actually going to the Oak Creek Rod Run (a bit south of Sedona). The year was 1978 and the group included Roy Chisolm, John Pickle, Norm Fletcher, Butch Whitley, Patti and me, and several others. As I recall, we "fixed" Ray's '38 Chevy by hammering a piece of wood in the hole in the oil pan and continued on to Oak Creek. Hillbilly engineering at it's finest! Bill _____ From: don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com <mailto:don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com> <don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com <mailto:don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 1:43 PM To: 'Michael G. Brattland' <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> >; 'Tony Cortez' <tltony@cox.net <mailto:tltony@cox.net> >; lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com <mailto:lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com> <lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com> Cc: 'San Diego Car Guys List' <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org <mailto:sandiegocarguys@brattland.org> >; 'Ray Gauthier' <ragauthier@cox.net <mailto:ragauthier@cox.net> >; 'Ron Lambrecht Home' <lambrecr@outlook.com <mailto:lambrecr@outlook.com> >; 'Pete Cowper' <petercowper@att.net <mailto:petercowper@att.net> >; 'Kevin Black' <kblack1967@gmail.com <mailto:kblack1967@gmail.com> >; 'Michael G Brattland' <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com <mailto:mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com> >; 'Bill Jansen GMail' <coebill@gmail.com <mailto:coebill@gmail.com> >; 'Bill Personius' <billpersonius@gmail.com <mailto:billpersonius@gmail.com> > Subject: [Sandiegocarguys] Re: My Willy Aum Oil Pan Hi, Just like the pan the Ray Smith broke on a rock going to Sedona in 1986 on the freeway in the rain east of Yuma. Don From: Michael G. Brattland <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 12:27 PM To: Tony Cortez <tltony@cox.net <mailto:tltony@cox.net> > Cc: San Diego Car Guys List <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org <mailto:sandiegocarguys@brattland.org> >; Ray Gauthier <ragauthier@cox.net <mailto:ragauthier@cox.net> >; Ron Lambrecht Home <lambrecr@outlook.com <mailto:lambrecr@outlook.com> >; Pete Cowper <petercowper@att.net <mailto:petercowper@att.net> >; Kevin Black <kblack1967@gmail.com <mailto:kblack1967@gmail.com> >; Michael G Brattland <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com <mailto:mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com> >; Bill Jansen GMail <coebill@gmail.com <mailto:coebill@gmail.com> >; Bill Personius <billpersonius@gmail.com <mailto:billpersonius@gmail.com> > Subject: [Sandiegocarguys] My Willy Aum Oil Pan All back together and running here. As you always do a very nice Tig Weld both inside and outside on my hot rod oil pan which got holed at the oil changer place.Thanks so much making this pan repair for me Tony.....mgb MGBrattland Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
Larry, Well, I may be the one confused, but I have a bunch of pictures from Oak Creek dated 1978 with Smith and the others I mentioned, and it was raining pretty heavy in the pics. There was a fair amount of alcohol involved back in those days (the pictures document that also) and we three or four trips to Oak Creek so you're likely correct. I guess we'll need Ray to confirm the dates. Bill ________________________________ From: lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com <lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2026 10:31 AM To: 'william hogue' <hogue34@hotmail.com>; don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com <don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com>; 'Michael G. Brattland' <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com>; 'Tony Cortez' <tltony@cox.net> Cc: 'San Diego Car Guys List' <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org>; 'Ray Gauthier' <ragauthier@cox.net>; 'Ron Lambrecht Home' <lambrecr@outlook.com>; 'Pete Cowper' <petercowper@att.net>; 'Kevin Black' <kblack1967@gmail.com>; 'Michael G Brattland' <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com>; 'Bill Jansen GMail' <coebill@gmail.com>; 'Bill Personius' <billpersonius@gmail.com> Subject: RE: [Sandiegocarguys] Re: My Willy Aum Oil Pan Mornin Bill; I am confused,, Ray broke his oil pan on two different occasions? That trip that Don was describing was memorable. It rained so much it filled my cylinders in my roadster with water. Needed to remove the spark plugs to get the water out of the cylinders. Didn’t do any damage to the engine. We ran across some older guy (like you and me now) who had a really large collections of mid 40 and 50 and 60’s cars in one of the mining warehouses, He let us in to look around. Was Kool Best to you and Patti. Larry Hofer Corvette Shop/Raylar Engineering 4645 Ruffner St., “I” San Diego, CA 92111 858-277-8388 From: william hogue <hogue34@hotmail.com> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 10:21 PM To: don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com; 'Michael G. Brattland' <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com>; 'Tony Cortez' <tltony@cox.net>; lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com Cc: 'San Diego Car Guys List' <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org>; 'Ray Gauthier' <ragauthier@cox.net>; 'Ron Lambrecht Home' <lambrecr@outlook.com>; 'Pete Cowper' <petercowper@att.net>; 'Kevin Black' <kblack1967@gmail.com>; 'Michael G Brattland' <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com>; 'Bill Jansen GMail' <coebill@gmail.com>; 'Bill Personius' <billpersonius@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Sandiegocarguys] Re: My Willy Aum Oil Pan Don, Ray Smith was with a convoy of Over the Hill Gang members and we were actually going to the Oak Creek Rod Run (a bit south of Sedona). The year was 1978 and the group included Roy Chisolm, John Pickle, Norm Fletcher, Butch Whitley, Patti and me, and several others. As I recall, we "fixed" Ray's '38 Chevy by hammering a piece of wood in the hole in the oil pan and continued on to Oak Creek. Hillbilly engineering at it's finest! Bill ________________________________ From: don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com<mailto:don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com> <don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com<mailto:don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com>> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 1:43 PM To: 'Michael G. Brattland' <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com<mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com>>; 'Tony Cortez' <tltony@cox.net<mailto:tltony@cox.net>>; lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com<mailto:lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com> <lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com<mailto:lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com>> Cc: 'San Diego Car Guys List' <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org<mailto:sandiegocarguys@brattland.org>>; 'Ray Gauthier' <ragauthier@cox.net<mailto:ragauthier@cox.net>>; 'Ron Lambrecht Home' <lambrecr@outlook.com<mailto:lambrecr@outlook.com>>; 'Pete Cowper' <petercowper@att.net<mailto:petercowper@att.net>>; 'Kevin Black' <kblack1967@gmail.com<mailto:kblack1967@gmail.com>>; 'Michael G Brattland' <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com<mailto:mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com>>; 'Bill Jansen GMail' <coebill@gmail.com<mailto:coebill@gmail.com>>; 'Bill Personius' <billpersonius@gmail.com<mailto:billpersonius@gmail.com>> Subject: [Sandiegocarguys] Re: My Willy Aum Oil Pan Hi, Just like the pan the Ray Smith broke on a rock going to Sedona in 1986 on the freeway in the rain east of Yuma. Don From: Michael G. Brattland <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com<mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com>> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 12:27 PM To: Tony Cortez <tltony@cox.net<mailto:tltony@cox.net>> Cc: San Diego Car Guys List <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org<mailto:sandiegocarguys@brattland.org>>; Ray Gauthier <ragauthier@cox.net<mailto:ragauthier@cox.net>>; Ron Lambrecht Home <lambrecr@outlook.com<mailto:lambrecr@outlook.com>>; Pete Cowper <petercowper@att.net<mailto:petercowper@att.net>>; Kevin Black <kblack1967@gmail.com<mailto:kblack1967@gmail.com>>; Michael G Brattland <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com<mailto:mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com>>; Bill Jansen GMail <coebill@gmail.com<mailto:coebill@gmail.com>>; Bill Personius <billpersonius@gmail.com<mailto:billpersonius@gmail.com>> Subject: [Sandiegocarguys] My Willy Aum Oil Pan All back together and running here. As you always do a very nice Tig Weld both inside and outside on my hot rod oil pan which got holed at the oil changer place.Thanks so much making this pan repair for me Tony.....mgb MGBrattland Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
Afternoon Bill; I was not back in San Diego till 1981 So it must have been on two different occasions? Or possibly a bit confused? May be he made it there successfully in the 1978 photos? Dons memories' are way more accurate than mine.. Larry Hofer Corvette Shop/Raylar Engineering 4645 Ruffner St., "I" San Diego, CA 92111 858-277-8388 From: william hogue <hogue34@hotmail.com> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2026 2:49 PM To: lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com; don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com; 'Michael G. Brattland' <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com>; 'Tony Cortez' <tltony@cox.net> Cc: 'San Diego Car Guys List' <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org>; 'Ray Gauthier' <ragauthier@cox.net>; 'Ron Lambrecht Home' <lambrecr@outlook.com>; 'Pete Cowper' <petercowper@att.net>; 'Kevin Black' <kblack1967@gmail.com>; 'Michael G Brattland' <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com>; 'Bill Jansen GMail' <coebill@gmail.com>; 'Bill Personius' <billpersonius@gmail.com> Subject: [Sandiegocarguys] Re: My Willy Aum Oil Pan Larry, Well, I may be the one confused, but I have a bunch of pictures from Oak Creek dated 1978 with Smith and the others I mentioned, and it was raining pretty heavy in the pics. There was a fair amount of alcohol involved back in those days (the pictures document that also) and we three or four trips to Oak Creek so you're likely correct. I guess we'll need Ray to confirm the dates. Bill _____ From: lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com <mailto:lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com> <lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com <mailto:lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2026 10:31 AM To: 'william hogue' <hogue34@hotmail.com <mailto:hogue34@hotmail.com> >; don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com <mailto:don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com> <don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com <mailto:don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com> >; 'Michael G. Brattland' <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> >; 'Tony Cortez' <tltony@cox.net <mailto:tltony@cox.net> > Cc: 'San Diego Car Guys List' <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org <mailto:sandiegocarguys@brattland.org> >; 'Ray Gauthier' <ragauthier@cox.net <mailto:ragauthier@cox.net> >; 'Ron Lambrecht Home' <lambrecr@outlook.com <mailto:lambrecr@outlook.com> >; 'Pete Cowper' <petercowper@att.net <mailto:petercowper@att.net> >; 'Kevin Black' <kblack1967@gmail.com <mailto:kblack1967@gmail.com> >; 'Michael G Brattland' <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com <mailto:mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com> >; 'Bill Jansen GMail' <coebill@gmail.com <mailto:coebill@gmail.com> >; 'Bill Personius' <billpersonius@gmail.com <mailto:billpersonius@gmail.com> > Subject: RE: [Sandiegocarguys] Re: My Willy Aum Oil Pan Mornin Bill; I am confused,, Ray broke his oil pan on two different occasions? That trip that Don was describing was memorable. It rained so much it filled my cylinders in my roadster with water. Needed to remove the spark plugs to get the water out of the cylinders. Didn't do any damage to the engine. We ran across some older guy (like you and me now) who had a really large collections of mid 40 and 50 and 60's cars in one of the mining warehouses, He let us in to look around. Was Kool Best to you and Patti. Larry Hofer Corvette Shop/Raylar Engineering 4645 Ruffner St., "I" San Diego, CA 92111 858-277-8388 From: william hogue <hogue34@hotmail.com <mailto:hogue34@hotmail.com> > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 10:21 PM To: don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com <mailto:don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com> ; 'Michael G. Brattland' <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> >; 'Tony Cortez' <tltony@cox.net <mailto:tltony@cox.net> >; lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com <mailto:lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com> Cc: 'San Diego Car Guys List' <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org <mailto:sandiegocarguys@brattland.org> >; 'Ray Gauthier' <ragauthier@cox.net <mailto:ragauthier@cox.net> >; 'Ron Lambrecht Home' <lambrecr@outlook.com <mailto:lambrecr@outlook.com> >; 'Pete Cowper' <petercowper@att.net <mailto:petercowper@att.net> >; 'Kevin Black' <kblack1967@gmail.com <mailto:kblack1967@gmail.com> >; 'Michael G Brattland' <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com <mailto:mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com> >; 'Bill Jansen GMail' <coebill@gmail.com <mailto:coebill@gmail.com> >; 'Bill Personius' <billpersonius@gmail.com <mailto:billpersonius@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Sandiegocarguys] Re: My Willy Aum Oil Pan Don, Ray Smith was with a convoy of Over the Hill Gang members and we were actually going to the Oak Creek Rod Run (a bit south of Sedona). The year was 1978 and the group included Roy Chisolm, John Pickle, Norm Fletcher, Butch Whitley, Patti and me, and several others. As I recall, we "fixed" Ray's '38 Chevy by hammering a piece of wood in the hole in the oil pan and continued on to Oak Creek. Hillbilly engineering at it's finest! Bill _____ From: don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com <mailto:don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com> <don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com <mailto:don.kleine.vortex@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 1:43 PM To: 'Michael G. Brattland' <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> >; 'Tony Cortez' <tltony@cox.net <mailto:tltony@cox.net> >; lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com <mailto:lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com> <lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com <mailto:lhofer@corvetteshopsandiego.com> > Cc: 'San Diego Car Guys List' <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org <mailto:sandiegocarguys@brattland.org> >; 'Ray Gauthier' <ragauthier@cox.net <mailto:ragauthier@cox.net> >; 'Ron Lambrecht Home' <lambrecr@outlook.com <mailto:lambrecr@outlook.com> >; 'Pete Cowper' <petercowper@att.net <mailto:petercowper@att.net> >; 'Kevin Black' <kblack1967@gmail.com <mailto:kblack1967@gmail.com> >; 'Michael G Brattland' <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com <mailto:mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com> >; 'Bill Jansen GMail' <coebill@gmail.com <mailto:coebill@gmail.com> >; 'Bill Personius' <billpersonius@gmail.com <mailto:billpersonius@gmail.com> > Subject: [Sandiegocarguys] Re: My Willy Aum Oil Pan Hi, Just like the pan the Ray Smith broke on a rock going to Sedona in 1986 on the freeway in the rain east of Yuma. Don From: Michael G. Brattland <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2026 12:27 PM To: Tony Cortez <tltony@cox.net <mailto:tltony@cox.net> > Cc: San Diego Car Guys List <sandiegocarguys@brattland.org <mailto:sandiegocarguys@brattland.org> >; Ray Gauthier <ragauthier@cox.net <mailto:ragauthier@cox.net> >; Ron Lambrecht Home <lambrecr@outlook.com <mailto:lambrecr@outlook.com> >; Pete Cowper <petercowper@att.net <mailto:petercowper@att.net> >; Kevin Black <kblack1967@gmail.com <mailto:kblack1967@gmail.com> >; Michael G Brattland <mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com <mailto:mgbrattland@big3partsexchange.com> >; Bill Jansen GMail <coebill@gmail.com <mailto:coebill@gmail.com> >; Bill Personius <billpersonius@gmail.com <mailto:billpersonius@gmail.com> > Subject: [Sandiegocarguys] My Willy Aum Oil Pan All back together and running here. As you always do a very nice Tig Weld both inside and outside on my hot rod oil pan which got holed at the oil changer place.Thanks so much making this pan repair for me Tony.....mgb MGBrattland Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
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william hogue