Electrically powered and controlled drones are vulnerable to electronic warfare unless really well shielded and that adds weight and cost. They also will continue to have pretty limited range. They have to be made, they have to have a power source for charging and a place to be launched from.. a whole logistics supply chain to make them work and limited payload. Someone will innovate and come up with a comparable inexpensive way to defeat them.. probably with other cheap drones or energy weapons. Shoot the Ukraine business they have been defending bunkers and such with nothing more than chain link fencing and I saw video of a soldier defeating a fiber optic guided drone with a pair of scissors after it flew past. Marc is spot on.. just another weapon system and innovations will come. To be sure we ourselves need to be able to build these in massive numbers in a short time and control the entire supply chain to make them without much in terms of external resources which are vulnerable. On 6/30/2026 4:37 PM, Marc Liebman wrote:
Allison has a point that there is a discussion to be had. However, the Brits have been our staunchest ally – until Starmer came along – so let’s not dump them in the trash. The issue is three fold:
1. What is the threat that creates the most risk to the nation? I would posit that drones are part of the threat, but not the most dangerous one. 2. What is the counter to the threat that poses the most risk? And, is that solution flexible enough to morph to form the basis of the defense to the next generation threat 3. Do we have the political will to pay for, deploy and employ the solution and does it have a back-up plan.
I also believe that the drones are just another weapon. Warriors will evolve tactics, counters will be developed and then the next shiny object will give another generation of talking heads to pontificate about.
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*From: *"ahaefner@aol.com" <ahaefner@aol.com> *Reply-To: *"ahaefner@aol.com" <ahaefner@aol.com> *Date: *Tuesday, June 30, 2026 at 5:59 PM *To: *Marc Liebman <marc@marcliebman.com>, Mike Brattland <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com>, "helobubbas@helobubbas.com" <helobubbas@helobubbas.com> *Subject: *Re: [Helobubbas] Re: UK Sacrifices Its Future Destroyer As Part Of Massive Bet On Drones Across Its Forces
IMHO there is a discussion to be made that the ongoing "drone wars" show the little guy can be a difficult enemy:
1- too expensive to defeat the drones with existing high-end defensive weapons
2- easy to expand the battlespace to friends of your enemy in the neighborhood
3- more capability (quantity) for your buck
4- shorter supply chain from OEM, faster change orders
5- innovate and upgrade on the front line
W/r, AL
In a message dated 6/30/2026 1:35:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, marc@marcliebman.com writes:
This is so stupid, it is beyond belief. Its all because the RN can’t man it ships. Samuel Pepys, Admirals Nelson, Collingwood, Cunninham, Hood, Jellicoe, Beatty and a host of others including Winston Churchill are rolling in their graves.
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*From: *Mike Brattland <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> *Date: *Tuesday, June 30, 2026 at 3:04 PM *To: *HeloBubbas <helobubbas@helobubbas.com> *Subject: *[Helobubbas] UK Sacrifices Its Future Destroyer As Part Of Massive Bet On Drones Across Its Forces
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